Hi Paul,
 I`ve been saving scans as bmp`s. Is saving as a tiff better?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?


> Your jpeg for the PUG should be 75K stored and closed. When open, it will
be
> around 700K. If you size your file to 75K open, you're seriously degrading
it.
> The beauty of a jpeg format is that it compresses the file on disk but
allows
> it to decompress when it's opened. Another note: Once you save a jpeg file
> don't resave it. Each time it's compressed some degradation occurs. You
can
> view it as many times as you want, but don't keep saving it over and over
> again. And you don;'t have to use the "save for web" option on PhotoShop.
Just
> scan your file as a tiff, modify it for the PUG, size it to 600x400 at 72
ppi,
> then save it as a jpeg. Photoshop will ask you to choose a quality level
from
> one 1 to 11. After you choose the level, PhotoShop will tell you how big
the
> stored file is going to be. Choose the highest level that keeps you under
75K,
> usually about 8. However this differs depending on how many colors there
are in
> a particular shot. BWs are much smaller than color scans.
> Paul
>
> Sid Barras wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I've started a new chain with this letter because I think it important
> > for some of us who may be confused with the rules regarding PUG
submissions.
> >
> > I started the older chain of conversation with this (condensed):
> >
> > <<My photo in the PUG this month is a dissapointment for me due to its
> > noticeable pixelation. The original image, in Velvia, is an incredibly
> > sharp, extremely "loud" photo, as probably only Velvia can do.
> > The photo I sent was under 75k, and the length and width, were within
> > the parameters stated on the pre-submission page.
> >
> > On my computer, the final, re-sized, retouched Jpeg, ready for the
> > gallery looked great on my computer.
> > When I view the same image on our gallery, it looks awful (relatively
> > speaking).
> >
> > I tried to keep the image as close to the limit in size as allowed, in
> > hopes of having the best quallity I can hope for shown. I tweak the
> > image with the "save for web" command (I use Photoshop  6),  until I get
> > to the 75k size limit.>>
> >
> > Bob S., in his comment mentioned something important:
> >
> > <<I see a 600x410 picture with a size of 26K.
> > Didn't you say that you sent 75K?
> > Perhaps this accounts for your artifacts.>>
> >
> > I suppose this is going over my  head when we begin to talk about jpeg
> > compression, but is my file size is 74k when closed, and stored on the
> > server, does  it suddenly take up more space on the server when it is
open?
> >
> > So, the actual image must be under 75k when it is open?
> > And one last puzzlement, why isn't the code for the page written so that
> > the thumbnails will show  in both netscape and explorer?
> >
> > Regards to all from cajunland USA...
> > Sid B
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