Hi Paul, I`ve been saving scans as bmp`s. Is saving as a tiff better? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?
> Your jpeg for the PUG should be 75K stored and closed. When open, it will be > around 700K. If you size your file to 75K open, you're seriously degrading it. > The beauty of a jpeg format is that it compresses the file on disk but allows > it to decompress when it's opened. Another note: Once you save a jpeg file > don't resave it. Each time it's compressed some degradation occurs. You can > view it as many times as you want, but don't keep saving it over and over > again. And you don;'t have to use the "save for web" option on PhotoShop. Just > scan your file as a tiff, modify it for the PUG, size it to 600x400 at 72 ppi, > then save it as a jpeg. Photoshop will ask you to choose a quality level from > one 1 to 11. After you choose the level, PhotoShop will tell you how big the > stored file is going to be. Choose the highest level that keeps you under 75K, > usually about 8. However this differs depending on how many colors there are in > a particular shot. BWs are much smaller than color scans. > Paul > > Sid Barras wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I've started a new chain with this letter because I think it important > > for some of us who may be confused with the rules regarding PUG submissions. > > > > I started the older chain of conversation with this (condensed): > > > > <<My photo in the PUG this month is a dissapointment for me due to its > > noticeable pixelation. The original image, in Velvia, is an incredibly > > sharp, extremely "loud" photo, as probably only Velvia can do. > > The photo I sent was under 75k, and the length and width, were within > > the parameters stated on the pre-submission page. > > > > On my computer, the final, re-sized, retouched Jpeg, ready for the > > gallery looked great on my computer. > > When I view the same image on our gallery, it looks awful (relatively > > speaking). > > > > I tried to keep the image as close to the limit in size as allowed, in > > hopes of having the best quallity I can hope for shown. I tweak the > > image with the "save for web" command (I use Photoshop 6), until I get > > to the 75k size limit.>> > > > > Bob S., in his comment mentioned something important: > > > > <<I see a 600x410 picture with a size of 26K. > > Didn't you say that you sent 75K? > > Perhaps this accounts for your artifacts.>> > > > > I suppose this is going over my head when we begin to talk about jpeg > > compression, but is my file size is 74k when closed, and stored on the > > server, does it suddenly take up more space on the server when it is open? > > > > So, the actual image must be under 75k when it is open? > > And one last puzzlement, why isn't the code for the page written so that > > the thumbnails will show in both netscape and explorer? > > > > Regards to all from cajunland USA... > > Sid B > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

