On Oct 10, 2010, at 1:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I find even "Pros" in most cases clueless on the use of flash. I should have > taken a picture at the outdoor venue where the three "Pro" photographers were > shooting a stage show with bounce flash, no ceiling, no bounce cards, just > bouncing flash off of the night sky... Kind of like all those flashing P&S, > and disposable camera flashes from the nosebleed seats at a stadium concert. > I didn't know if I should to laugh or cry. > Frequently, when using flash for fill, it's good to tilt it up to avoid burning out the foreground -- even outdoors. The technique works well with a diffuser attached. Paul
> On 10/8/2010 9:20 AM, David Parsons wrote: >> It is very rare to catch someone else's flash during a shot, even in a >> pit situation. >> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM, paul stenquist<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist wrote: >>> >>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>> >>>>> Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got it, >>>>> I'd venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash. >>>>> Admittedly, some of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the same >>>>> reason I've used the live view on it less than a total of 30 seconds. I >>>>> just don't find it helpful enough to warrant the power usage. And I love >>>>> the way the K-x uses available light. Focusing problems and occasional >>>>> lens-build issues be damned. It'll be tough for Nikon or Canon to lure >>>>> me away when Pentax has such great low light performance for so much less >>>>> dough. >>>>> >>>>> Let 'em chuckle. In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them >>>>> fumbling to replace batteries in the dark. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Any pro photographers will be using cameras with multiple lithium >>>> batteries that provide well over 1000 exposures. No one will be fumbling >>>> with batteires. And no one will be using a pop up flash. Probably all will >>>> have the dedicated Nikon or Canon flash with a dome style diffuser >>>> attached. But they will shoot their long lens stuff with available light >>>> if it's reasonably bright. The full frame Nikon has at least as good low >>>> light performance as the Kx, with a lot more resolution and superb >>>> autofocus. >>>> >>>> >>> Excuse my replying to myself, but I should point out that flashes aren't >>> used by PJs just to compensate for a lack of light. They're a lighting >>> tool. If you have to shoot an outdoor speaker, chances are he or she will >>> be backlit or perhaps even crosslit. That's done so the speaker doesn't >>> squint. In that case, flash is used for fill. When those PJs shoot >>> interview subjects in close, they use flash, in part, because others are >>> using flash. Each wants to make sure that for their shot, the lion's share >>> of the light will be coming from close to camera, rather than from 150 >>> degrees to the rear. If you're shooting at ISO 3200 with no flash and ten >>> other photogs are shooting at ISO 400 with flash, many of your shots will >>> be grossly overexposed with light from odd angles. But you should be able >>> to sneak in a few frames between flashes. >>> >>> Paul >>>>> On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>> That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just >>>>>> about everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting >>>>>> away with flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a >>>>>> flash. I only own two flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for >>>>>> a Leica rangefinder) and don't use either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeffery >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask >>>>>>> them, "So ... what's with the flash? I've never had to use one of >>>>>>> those with my K-x. What's it like?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >>>>>>>> One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon and >>>>>>>> Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will, i've been there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i just >>>>>>>> smile at them.;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Jeffery. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on >>>>>>>>> packing a >>>>>>>>> giant piece of glass with me. Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 >>>>>>>>> f/4-5.6, my >>>>>>>>> 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a "just in case" for anything else >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> might be going on that I don't have the reach for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed >>>>>>>>>> (as you >>>>>>>>>> see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. Blend >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> without drawing attention to yourself when possible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeffery >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance >>>>>>>>>>> photographer for >>>>>>>>>>> a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election. >>>>>>>>>>> Having never >>>>>>>>>>> done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty >>>>>>>>>>> decent vantage >>>>>>>>>>> point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the >>>>>>>>>>> scenes. Given >>>>>>>>>>> the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask >>>>>>>>>>> if anyone >>>>>>>>>>> has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling images >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and >>>>>>>>>>> compositional >>>>>>>>>>> advice, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting >>>>>>>>>>> events >>>>>>>>>>> of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible >>>>>>>>>>> photographer >>>>>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated. As a matter of background, I was >>>>>>>>>>> granted this >>>>>>>>>>> press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and Flickr >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, I have a bit of a dilemma. Should I approach this as an >>>>>>>>>>> ostensibly >>>>>>>>>>> hard-nosed photojournalist trying to capture the "reality" of the >>>>>>>>>>> campaign >>>>>>>>>>> trail in a consequential election? Or, given the very early stage >>>>>>>>>>> of my >>>>>>>>>>> development as a photographer, should I approach it as a potential >>>>>>>>>>> connection for future job opportunities by taking shots geared >>>>>>>>>>> toward making >>>>>>>>>>> the subject look as good as I can? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As a matter of pure, career-minded practicality with an eye toward >>>>>>>>>>> getting the proverbial foot in the door to future work as a >>>>>>>>>>> photographer, >>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any guidance anyone can offer me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
