I don't believe that what we now call FF (24x36) will eventually take
over.  I certainly think the DX format will continue to flourish.  The
vast majority of the world's sensors are, after all, much smaller than
any of these.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Jaume Lahuerta <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting discussion...
>
> If Canikon comes out with their own 'Nex'-like...I am afraid that all those
> buyers will be attracted again by their powerful brands (as they are when
> jumping to entry level DSLRs).
>
> But I agree in that a m-APSC standard would be even worst for m4/3...
> (I am not sure if the NEX or Samsung mount can accommodate as many lenses as
> m4/3 with adapters, probably not)
>
>
>
> ----- Mensaje original ----
>> De: Steven Desjardins <[email protected]>
>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> Enviado: vie,22 octubre, 2010 00:18
>> Asunto: Re: OT: new camera
>>
>> Pixel peepers and sensor snobs will never use four thirds.  However,
>> the  images are fine and thats what matters.  The very high level pro
>> cameras  won't go this way but sub $1000 small EVIL cams will do just
>> fine.   Especially since even the pros like a small street camera.  The
>> problem  for Sony is that not every one will buy into the lenses,
>> whereas Micro 4/3  will have a number of makers and many adaptors.
>> Remember that most of the  money is actually made on the P&S cameras.
>> The only real problem I see  might be high noise but I bet the
>> processing will take care of  that.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Jaume Lahuerta <[email protected]>  wrote:
>> iso>
>> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:36 AM,  Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]>
>> >>wrote:>  > I  pulled the trigger and bought a new camera today. Sorry, it
>>isn't  a
>> >>Pentax.
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I usually don't  buy anything new right out of the gate.  Particularly
>> >> > pro-class  cameras ... I usually wait until they get well  into the
>> >> >  market, until the issues and workarounds are known, until the   prices
>> >> > drop a little bit. I usually wait until my image  processing tools  can
>> >> > handle their raw files.
>> >>  >
>> >> > The Olympus E-5 manual is in  front of me. The battery is  charged, the
>> >> > 50 Macro is on the body, a card  is in the  slot.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd put in an order for one yesterday on  Amazon  but their vendors had
>> >> > already sold out the first  shipment. No biggie,  I'm patient. Today,
>> >> > the local store  called and said, "We have one for  you." I went up to
>> >> > see it,  dickered a little on the price (sales tax  here would be almost
>> >> >  $160), we came to an agreement discounting the  price, and I took it
>> >>  > home.
>> >> >
>> >> > First very raw impression: I  did  the Right Thing. Since I'm fully
>> >> > setup with all the FourThirds   pro-grade lenses, flash and accessories
>> >> > I need, it only made  sense to  keep going and get a current pro-grade
>> >> > body. I'd  planned to buy an E-3  when the E-5 came out, take advantage
>> >> > of  the usual dip in prices. But  when I read the spec, the E-5 had all
>> >>  > the right improvements for my  needs. It feels great in my hands,  I
>> >> > like the control layout and menus,  the viewfinder is superb.  It's very
>> >> > responsive, and pretty darn quiet in  operation. The  rest ... well, I'm
>> >> > only a few pages into the manual as  yet.  There's a lot in here.
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Congratulations  Godfrey.
>> >
>> > However, I have some doubts about the 4/3 - m4/3  systems:
>> >
>> > For me 4/3 was about compactness: 'hey, forget those  dinosaurs tied to the
>>film
>> > era...'.
>> > But I have just checked and  the K-5 is smaller and lighter than the E-5...
>> >
>> > Maybe for this  reason everybody assumes that the E-5 will be the last 4/3
>>camera
>> > and  the future of this format is in the flourishing m4/3 system (and
>>probably
>> > the next 'pro' body will be in some sort of  m4/3).
>> >
>> > But also, looking at the last products from Samsung and  Sony, I am not 
>> > also
>>sure
>> > about the size advantage of m4/3 again.
>> >  And, since IQ will be always inferior at 4/3 land (as FF fanboys like to
>>say
>> > when bashing APS-C)...waht is the sustainable advantage of m4/3 over  Sony
>>Nex
>> > cameras, for instance?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >  Jaume
>> >
>> >
>> >
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