I'm never happy to see anyone just go away. Tolerance extends in many directions. We're never stronger for losing someone, even if that strength is the result of patience on our part. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because I can have quite a bad temper and have said things on occasion that I deeply regret later.
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> I certainly don't want to see Bill go away. I can deal just fine with >> his directness/bluntness, etc., and many times it adds to a >> discussion. > > I don't want to see him go away either. But his language isn't just direct, > it's frequently abusive. There's no excusing his attack on Godfrey. Godfrey > and I have gone toe-to-toe on more than one occasion, but we managed to do it > without being disgusting and personally abusive. > > Bill has responded to me in an ugly fashion on more than one occasion when I > disagreed with him , and I've called him out on it every time.In response, he > grows even more vile. Yes, I can be aggressive, but I don't resort to > personal attacks. To do so is childish and totally unacceptable. > > There are those that Bill never abuses, even when they disagree with him, > apparently they have gained his favor. That's fine. But I'm not going to > tolerate his nastiness, and I don't think anyone else should have to either. > If he wants to behave like an adult, he should come back. Otherwise, he > should disappear. > Paul > > >> As I said, the only problem here was the use of the word >> "faggot". It was an inappropriate choice of word and Paul's >> comparison to the use of "nigger: was accurate. If someone referred >> to a person of color as a "nigger" in the heat of an argument then >> people would be appalled and the orginal argument would become moot. >> This has nothing to do with strong opinions or heated responses. It >> about the use of a word that has moved beyond its casual use and has >> become a vile pejorative in the eyes of many. Words change their >> connotations and sometimes misunderstandings occur during the >> transition period. >> >> >> "> Come on Bill - that would mean I will overtake you in longevity here - >>> now that's really gotta hurt ;-) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Cotty >>> >>> >>> ___/\__ >>> || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche >>> ---------- http://www.cottysnaps.com >>> _____________________________" >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
