I agree Frank, totally, HOWEVER, I do think that it *can* be taken in
another way...
I am a huge fan of the gay community. The warmth and openness it has is
awesome, and the bitchiness ("omg, he's sleeping with my ex-boyfriend, that
bitch!") provides me with hours of entertainment! Lol.
Many of my closest friends are gay, and I am pretty sure that my eldest son
may be too (he doesn't know it himself yet though).
Re: the word "faggot" - somebody else touched on this too - we all know that
it depends who says it and how it is said that is the big kicker here. For
example a "nigger" is fine if you are black and you are saying "yo nigga" to
one of your friends. Likewise with faggot - heaps of my gay friends do the
same, ie. greet either other with "hey fag boy" and similar.
And to add to this, me being the rose amongst the thorns of many of my male
gay friends, I am, of course, known to many as a "fag hag". I'm proud of it
too, cause it is two simple words that tell the word that I am absolutely
not bigoted, or homophobic, and this is a great way to be, IMO.
Using the internet can be tough as we generally lack the advantage given to
us by body language, and tone of voice when we say stuff. I know that my
words are often soooooo misconstrued by my own mother for example, who is
uneducated and generally misreads what I say in my emails to her.
Likewise, Bill *could* have been exclaiming in a high pitched feminine
voice, "oh, Godfrey, you pompous twit faggot!", whilst sitting with a
scotch in his hand, his legs crossed (in a camp, ladylike fashion), head
thrown back and giggling, and wearing pink fluffy slippers, whilst
fluttering his eyelids at him, and it could have been a term of endearment!
Of course, we know that wasn't the intention here, but you know, stranger
things have happened...
Can I make another observation here?
This entire thing has played out amongst the men of this list - am I missing
something here or isn't it the female gender that is supposed to be the
dramatic, over sensitive one?!? ;-)
Tanya Love
Photographer
www.lovebytes.com.au
m: 0458 006 740
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
frank theriault
Sent: Sunday, 24 October 2010 10:13 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: new camera
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, William Robb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else.
>
> Show me where anything in that sentence isn't true Frank?
> You may not like the choice of terminology, but it doesn't indicate
> bigotry, only contempt, which is not the same thing.
I guess you could make the same argument if you called a person of African
descent a nigger or a Jew a kike.
You know damned well that the word "faggot" is offensive, derogatory and
meant to demean a person's sexual preference - it simply can't be taken in
any other way.
-frank
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