He does present it as a vast conspiracy. I think that the camera
makers don't mention it because they probably think no one cares.  Of
course, maybe they will now.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I believe the article is written using an overly hysterical tone.
>
> This isn't news.  It has long been known that the metering in
> many digital cameras takes the maximum aperture of the lens into
> account.  In the case of Pentax it was discussed when the K-10
> was a fairly new body (I believe Ned Bunnell even confirmed
> that the K-10 metering behaved that way).
>
> The is generally believed to be why metering errors are more
> visible with old, fast lenses used wide open (often reported for
> the 50mm/f1.2); as the charts show, the effect is only really
> noticeable at an aperture wider than f/2.0.
>
> I suspect that, in fact, the compensation for this effect is done
> by changing the measured Ev, and using whatever auto-exposure the
> camera is set up to provide. Most often this will result in a slight
> change to shutter speed (in Av mode), aperture (in Tv mode), or both
> (in Program mode). Presumably the camera has been set up in an auto-
> mode so that it can take care of the exposure adjustment; it seems
> unreasonable to complain if this also compensates for the known
> characteristics of the sensor. The only time this wouldn't happen
> would be if the camera was being used in manual exposure mode.
> But if you follow the oft-given advice, and check exposure using
> the histogram at the start of a shoot, you'll get that right too.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:38:42AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> The best thing would be to admit the correct and allow the shooter to
>> turn it on or off with a custom function.  Why change the iso anyway?
>> why not just change the Tv?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, CheekyGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steven Desjardins <[email protected]> 
>> > wrote:
>> >> The funny thing would be if they
>> >> didn't correct there would no evidence of it in this data but rather
>> >> in inconsistent exposure results between lenses.
>> >
>> > I guess I should have prefaced my comments as coming from one who
>> > really likes to use old legacy glass on my K-x (and before that
>> > K200D). Frankly, I'm not a DA buyer, so their current offerings are
>> > irrelevant to me. I'm interested in m42 Takumars and SMC K-mounts, and
>> > (to a far lesser degree) F and FA lenses designed for full-frame 35mm.
>> > And if you hang around in those circles that is EXACTLY what you hear
>> > about from some people. I've just never paid attention to the CAMERA
>> > BODIES that the complainers were using before.
>> >
>> > I'd really love to hear the Pentax Position on these issues. I think
>> > that most users would rather have the camera cheat the ISO in favor of
>> > proper exposure with a given lens, rather than force the photographer
>> > to keep track of the myriad exposure characteristics of each lens
>> > (which would change depending on the aperture you were using them
>> > with).
>> >
>> > Darren Addy
>> > Kearney, Nebraska
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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