I use Matt Kloskowski's black and white presets as a starting point at times. 

http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/presets-better-black-and-whites/

On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> In fact, I've used the LR low-contrast and high-contrast presets for
> making B&W and they do pretty well.  I always tinker but on a couple
> occasions just went almost entirely with the preset, because it was so
> good.
> -Tim
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Parsons <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Yeah, LR has sliders for each color (10 or 12 different colors and
>> shades, IIRC).  I really like how LR handles B&W conversions.
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:21 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've been looking at a lot of digital b&w work this week.
>>>> 
>>>> When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do?
>>>> I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment.
>>>> 
>>>> When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the B&w efforts
>>>> seem to share a common fault:  3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6.
>>>> There just is not the tonal variance.
>>> 
>>> That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, 
>>> but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the 
>>> gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film 
>>> in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features.
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> Collin Brendemuehl
>>>> http://kerygmainstitute.org
>>>> 
>>>> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
>>>> -- Jim Elliott
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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