On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Miserere wrote:

> On 18 November 2010 20:56, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Last night I tried a more rigorous test of photographing with and without a 
>> cokin blue filter on my camera.  I also tried with and without using custom 
>> white balance in the camera.  The following collection are the best few 
>> shots of each of the permutations I tried:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157625421911182/
>> 
>> My gut feeling is that the biggest difference is due to using in camera 
>> white balance. That it allows me to shoot with the colors more balanced 
>> without blowing out the red channel. I'm not sure how this works unless it 
>> tweaks the gain that goes into the raw file.  Shooting with a blue filter, 
>> allowed me to set the custom white balance when I otherwise couldn't.  It 
>> also meant using much slower shutter speeds, so there's a tradeoff there.
>> 
>> However the final product is a result of skill level throughout the whole 
>> process, and my lightroom skills are fairly rudimentary, a more accurate 
>> test would be to have someone that knows post processing clean up the files. 
>>  A more practical (except for the cost) solution would probably be to get a 
>> K-5  with its greater dynamic range, which would allow a lot more room for 
>> color correction without blowing out highlights.
> 
> OK Larry, I took a look, but they all look pretty good at those sizes.
> What's your take on the experiment?

I recognize that this is a somewhat unusual situation (though I run into 
similar lighting at Don Quixote's in Felton), and until/unless I'm getting paid 
to photograph in this lighting, it's only worth so much of my time and effort 
to polish all of the details.  That being said, I think that there are indeed 
things I can learn from it that I'll be able to generalize to other lighting 
situations.

1) I wish that I knew exactly what changing the white balance did to the 
hardware and the raw file. I hate that Pentax (and I assume all other 
manufacturers) figure that people are too stupid to understand and just say 
what effect the controls are supposed to have, rather than telling us what they 
actually do. Digital cameras are made for people who want their hands held, not 
for people that like to get their hands dirty.

2) To really understand the results, I'd need to go beyond pixel peeping into 
raw data peeping and see what happens with the raw data.  If you look at the 
exif info, there's a couple of stops difference in exposure between unfiltered 
and filtered. I don't remember what the difference is between unfiltered 
corrected WB and unfiltered tungsten WB.  However, if shutter speed is 
critical, then I'd say expose for the brightest channel, and take your lumps in 
the other channels.  If there's lots and lots of light, then my gut feeling is 
that the filters will help.

3) I'm really looking forward to getting a K-5, which seems to have good enough 
performance in every category, that I'll be happy with it for several years. 
I'll plan on having it long enough to make it worth while *really* learning how 
to suck every drop of performance out of it. I absolutely love my K-x, and 
it'll do almost everything I need, but with the dumbed down controls, it's not 
a camera that disappears, like the K20 does when I'm using it within its 
performance envelope.


> 
> Is that lady as intense as she seems in the photos?

Only on stage. Sitting around a table having a drink, she's about as mellow as 
they come, but she does seem to come alive on stage.  Her name is Aeriol 
Ascher, if you google her you'll mostly find links to her Reiki massage 
business. I also find her extremely photogenic. A lot of singers just look like 
they're making silly faces when you photograph them, Aeriol looks like she is 
creating music and energy out of thin air.

> 

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Larry Colen [email protected] sent from i4est





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