goodly out of focus:-). When trying to detect spots on the sensor, you want 
only a white surface in front of the lens. Focusing on the surface is 
counterproductive in that you pick up more of its texture.

Paul
On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Badly OOF?
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> From: P N Stenquist <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles
>> Robinson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any of you guys with a K-5
>> experiencing any of this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a
>> look too. No need to transfer test
>>>>>>>> images to the computer, the blobs
>> can be seen on the LCD.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Frankly, if the images turn out OK
>> (besides being all green) then there is no problem. 
>> Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is
>> falling" kind of way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seriously... why would a person even
>> bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting
>> the output?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And by "affect the output" I mean: can
>> this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of
>> a blank grey surface?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It could be seen on any number of small
>> aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it.
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep
>> 'em coming.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the
>> center (most people seem
>>>>> to report them "near the center" for what it's
>> worth). They are
>>>>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when
>> photographing a blank surface; I
>>>>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of
>> detail) they should
>>>>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I
>> rarely photograph at such
>>>>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting
>> landscapes would be
>>>>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue
>> skies. Then again, a blob in
>>>>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again,
>> again, we'd all prefer
>>>>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our
>> postprocessing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the
>> guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with
>> white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops
>> were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw
>> a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and
>> retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white.
>>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> That's good news, Paul.
>>> 
>>> For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined
>> using the sky or
>>> a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not
>> sure why anyone
>>> would want advice on improving their blob definition,
>> but it's one of
>>> the many useful services I provide to the community.
>>> 
>>> Because giving back is important.
>>> 
>> I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at
>> f22. Just out of focus paper.
>> Paul
>>> 
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