Godfrey,

Along the same lines as your commentary...
I've loved 35mm slides and projected images since I first got to
borrow my dad's Retina IIIc.
The acutance in a 35mm Kodachrome image is just wonderful.
As a consumer, early digital could make acceptable 4x6 prints.
But the last couple of cameras from Pentax (K-5 & 7) are good enough
to rival those projected Kodachromes.  And my results are better.

As for comparison to 6x7, look at transparency film on a light table
with a big loop.
It will take your breath away, and a 15 meg digital file will never
compare to it.
I won't be shooting much medium format film, but it still has real IQ
advantages.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no sensible, direct translation of film acutance to digital
> resolution. I have watched people quoting ppi, sensor resolution, etc
> etc for years. It's all horsepucky.
>
> The resolution of film is dependent on many factors:
> - film speed
> - how it is exposed
> - how it is processed ... gamma is critical
> - how acutance is measured (what criteria is chosen)
>
> The resolution of a digital sensor is similarly dependent upon several factors
> - the size of the sensor
> - the {x,y} photosite dimensions
> - the strength of the antialiasing filter
> - how it is exposed
> - how it is processed
> - how acutance is measured
>
> All of that is important even before you think about lens qualities,
> scanning the film, etc etc.
>
> But that doesn't stop me from making an assessment based on my
> experience using specific cameras and lenses.
>
> I shot film for 45 years and have been working with digital capture
> and processing since 1984. When the first 5Mpixel digital cameras with
> good lenses appeared at an affordable price in 2002, I bought one and
> found that it totally eclipsed the capabilities of 35mm film cameras
> for my usual print sizes up to 11x14. I went to Medium Format film
> (645, 6x6, 6x9 cm) for larger prints. When I bought my first 6 Mpixel
> DSLR and top of the line lenses in 2003, I realized in short order
> that there was no longer any point to shooting Medium Format film for
> the print sizes I make (typically up to 16x20 inches).
>
> So for me, digital capture and processing outperforms Medium Format
> film and processing at the 6 Mpixel, professional quality camera and
> lenses point. Everything beyond that is a plus on the digital side,
> and the handling and management of digital capture images is far far
> far more convenient and flexible.
>
> Others will disagree with me and quote a bazillion silly numbers. But
> don't bother, please. This is an ancient debate and I'm not going to
> pursue it. I know what works for me.
>
> FWIW: I'd still like a Bronica RF645 camera with wide and normal
> lenses. A beautiful piece of equipment, always wanted to work with
> one. But if I got one, I doubt I'd get enough use out of it to be
> worth the money, even at the current $600-700 price level.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Jens <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello list
>> I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the SMC 1:4 
>> 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
>> Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images 
>> compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jens
>>
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