2011/3/16 Joseph McAllister <[email protected]>:
>
> I agree with that as well. If I recall though, to get a good water flow into 
> a reactor with pump failure, one needs to vent the pressure from the 
> containment vessel, normally through the Torus in these units, though in an 
> emergency greater than that there are valves that can be opened to vent the 
> steam from the boiling water out the top of the vessel.
>
> The downside of that is, if you remember from science class, if you have 
> superheated water under pressure, removing the pressure lowers the boiling 
> point of the liquid, which causes a great amount of steam to be generated 
> that needs to be released. Sort of a cascading problem, because at some point 
> so much water is being turned to steam that it lowers the water level, 
> perhaps faster than water can be pumped in to replace it.

this is actually something that has been boggling my mind since I
started thinking about what these poor people at fukushima who are
still their and giving their lives for what amounts to palliative care
of the plant and hopefully turning a 100% disaster into an 80%
disaster are doing all day.

I would kind of think that all this pumping of water onto fuel rods
glowing at somewhere between 800 and 2500 °C would cause instant
evaporation and the corresponding shock waves of pressure rises; AFAIK
water expands 1700fold from liquid to vapor/gaseous after all.
wouldn't that cause enormous stress and ultimately fatigue of the
containment vessel? and are the pressure relief valves designed to
withstand this abuse for an extended period?

> I do not claim to know everything about the operation of the GE reactors in 
> trouble in Japan right now. I did learn the basics as a teenager some 50 
> years ago, conversing with my father as well as listening in on many 
> conversations over dinners with several of the big names in the Atomic Energy 
> business. R.G. McAllister was a Nuclear Health Physicist sent to represent 
> the the U.S.A. Insurance Pool at several ISO conventions held at the Hague in 
> the 1950's and 60's where the many safety measures in the use of these 
> radioactive materials, from dentists and hospital use up to weapons 
> production, were discussed and agreed upon. The reason for these month long 
> meetings was that no insurance company, nor any country's insurance industry, 
> could afford to cover a catastrophic event such as the one we are currently 
> witness to in Japan. The risk had to be covered on a global scale.

just don't get me started on weapons. this is bad enough as it is.

> Don't be surprised if some of the large insurance companies in the world 
> start selling off assets such as downtown buildings and other properties in 
> the next year or three.

sounds probable indeed.

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