On 20/03/2011 17:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 20/03/2011 15:29, Walter Gilbert wrote:
the
dissolution of collective bargaining rights among public sector unions
I fail to see why anyone would want that, except to treat fellow humans less
equitably. Being promoted by the corn-fed fascist who recently awarded the tax
breaks that precipitated his state's budget crisis seems to be merely icing on
the cake.
You obviously haven't been following the Wisconsin situation closely, except perhaps
Michael Moore's fictional version. Collective bargaining on non-salary issues in
Wisconsin resulted in regulations that forced the state to keep a special education
school open that had one student and four teachers. It forced them to fire four young,
enthusiastic teachers when cuts had to be made, rather than one old guy who had been
suspended twice for abusing students. And collective bargaining rights for salary haven't
been lost. All that's changed is that the unions won't be able to dictate the way the
state is run. The "corn-fed fascist," you refer to in your ad hominem attack,
didn't cause the current budget crisis. He's only been in office for 60 days. He has
tried to provide a better climate for business, so that manufacturers might stay in the
state, and perhaps even some new ones will relocate there -- rather than in the
multitude of states that have low business taxes and righ
t-to-work laws that effectively neuter unions. Wisconsin is still a union
state; many others are not.
Been reading rather too much about it - from both sides.
Oh, and by the way, the governor was elected at the ballot box. The people
chose him and his policies.
The propensity for the working American to vote directly contrary to its
best interest has been a source of wonder and amusement for the rest of
the world for decades.
But this debate is a far cry from Ecke's snide little remarks about those who
oppose wikileaks. It's really out of control and has led to so much nonsense.
Most of it from people who have no grasp of U.S. issues or politics.
Most of whom, sadly, live in the USA.
I'm finished.
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