On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:22:48PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Ken Waller"
> 
> >From: "John Sessoms" <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
> >
> >
> >>> On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> >>>
> >>>>> I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of
> >>>>> experience or knowledge
> >>>>> has nothing to do with how much someone spends on something.  Look at 
> >>>>> how
> >>>>> long sports cars
> >>>>> have been available with automatic transmissions, even before the modern
> >>>>> ones that
> >>>>> arguably can out perform human shifting.
> >>>
> >>> I don't care if the automatic transmission can out perform me in shifting,
> >>> it doesn't have as much fun, and is not as much fun to drive as my manual.
> >>>
> >>> Plus, I regularly get better MPG performance than I would with an auto.
> >>> However you slice or dice it, an automatic transmission takes some of the
> >>> engine's output for its own operation, and that translates into decreased
> >>> MPG.
> >I'm not sure that (mileage improvement) would hold true over the new dual
> >clutch gearboxes on the same engines.
> 
> I don't think a dual clutch automatic gearbox was an available
> option on the 2005 Focus Wagon. I'm sure there's all sorts of
> wonderful exotic automotive technology out there. At what cost?
> 
> I'm talking about my experience with an automobile I can pay for ...
> and of the options available on *that* car, the *available* manual
> transmission made more economic sense for the way I drive.

If you were talking about one car - the 2005 Ford Focus - then you shouldn't
have made a generalised dismissive statement about automatics always having
decreased MPG.

The main reason your manual gearbox in that 2005 Focus gets improved MPG
over the automatic is because the manual is a 5-speed, while the automatic
is a 4-speed.  And even there the difference only really shows up in the
highway mileage.


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