My god man, you folks have to get some national TV announcers showing
the rest of your countrymen how things are pronounced.  I think the TV
network news did a lot to standardize the desirable accent over here.
What you've got would drive me batty!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 05/05/2011 20:28, Bob W wrote:
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>> Boris Liberman
>>
>>
>>> On 5/5/2011 16:55, mike wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Southern Scotland. That's not bad for a native speaker to understand.
>>>> Here's a selection of more extreme versions from the same area.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rab+c+nesbitt&aq=f
>>>
>>> Hmmm. I think you live relatively close to there, right (*)?
>>
>> Mike lives in the part of England that has probably the most impenetrable
>> accent of all.
>>
>> People here like Scottish accents, although the chap in the BBC video has
>> a
>> rather difficult one - Glasgow, I think, like Rab C Nesbit. But people
>> with
>> Scottish accents are much sought after to work on telephone help desks.
>> It's
>> probably something to do with the way they pronounce "See you, Jimmy".
>>
>>> Also, I
>>> suppose you meant to say "non-native speaker" if you were referring to
>>> me. But I appreciate the slip of your tongue :-).
>>>
>>
>> Plenty of native English speakers struggle with some of the regional
>> accents. Especially people from the South, but I was barred from a pub in
>> Manchester once because the landlord didn't like my accent.
>>
>>> One of the popular science programs here has a presenter that always
>>> raises his voice towards the end of the sentences. He sounds vaguely
>>> similar to this accent except that his is perfectly clear. Well, he's a
>>> popular science program presenter after all.
>>>
>>
>> Send a Youtube link if you can find one. It'd be interesting to hear. The
>> rising intonation is a new thing to British English, having come here from
>> New Zealand within the last 20 or so years, and is generally restricted to
>> young women. Maybe your presenter is not British.
>>
>> The British Library has an interesting archive of regional accents. This
>> is
>> what Mike Wilson sounds like:
>> <http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/england/byker/>
>
> I actually live no more than ten miles away from there and the accent is
> this different:
> http://www.bl.uk/learning/resources/sounds/mp3/world-map/england/sunderland-canny.mp3
>
> A few miles further south and you get:
> http://www.bl.uk/learning/resources/sounds/mp3/world-map/england/cockfield-fell.mp3
>
> Whereas go the same distance west and:
> http://www.bl.uk/learning/resources/sounds/mp3/world-map/england/whitfield-gan.mp3
>
> The one from the north doesn't seem to be working:
> http://www.bl.uk/learning/resources/sounds/mp3/world-map/england/england/holy-island-granda.mp3
>
> There are people I know who claim to be able to place a person to the part
> of the village they were brought up in, by their accent.
>
>>
>> B
>>
>>> Wondrous, wondrous indeed.
>>>
>>> (*) No hint, no pun, nothing, merely pointing out something that
>>> occurred to me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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