Perhaps, fortunate to a degree.  But, I shudder to consider living in a
region where a monster like this could potentially be back on the same
streets that my kids inhabit in just 21 years.  Even with the "containment"
period, I think that is a VERY low penalty to pay for what he has done.  I
am sure that the families of those he murdered would feel the same too...

Tan.x.

-----Original Message-----
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Eckehard Wegner
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 8:48 AM
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Subject: Re: I'm ok

Amazing: "From 1994 to 2004 the Norwegian police fired approximately
79 shots; 48 of these were fired during the Nokas Robbery in 2004."
(from the NOKAS article). Probably closer to the LAPD's weekly throughput.
Man, you Norwegians sure are fortunate.

2011/7/26 Toralf Lund <[email protected]>:
> On 7/25/11 5:50, Anthony Farr wrote:
>>
>> On 25 July 2011 12:39, John Sessoms<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing that's disturbing me about all this is according to news 
>>> reports I've seen, the maximum sentence he can get is 21 years. He 
>>> should at least be locked up the rest of his life.
>>>
>>>
>> They probably don't hand out consecutive sentences like USA courts 
>> give, either.  So perhaps we won't see a 2000+ year prison term 
>> derived from each crime being penalised individually.  One of our 
>> Norwegian friends might enlighten us on that question.
>
> Correct. You can never get more than the maximum penalty for the "worst"
> offence.
>
> But, like Dag said, even though 21 years is the maximum normal 
> punishment, but one can also be sentenced to "containment", which is 
> indefinite, but with reassessment after a certain period, for crimes 
> that "violate the life, health or freedom", where there is a clear 
> risk for repeat crimes. This was used e.g. in for several convicts in 
> a high-profile case a few years ago where less violence seemed to be 
> involved (if you can put it that way) - see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOKAS_robbery.
>
> Some of this is also described in
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway. I believe 
> the article is a bit inaccurate, but it does convey the basic principles.
>
> - Toralf
>>
>> A common ruse of prosecuters is to only charge a defendant with a 
>> portion of the crime so that fresh charges can be brought after the 
>> prisoner has served out his first sentence, and so on.  Send him down 
>> for the murders, then another bite of the cherry for the bombings, 
>> plus I'm sure there'll be a veritable shopping list of terrorism, 
>> impersonation of a police officer, firearms, transport of dangerous 
>> goods, and as many other things as the prosecuters have the 
>> creativity to define.  These are all serious crimes so I don't think 
>> any statute of limitations, if Norway has such a thing, would come 
>> into play.  If it did, then they'd simply start with the crimes that
"expire" first.
>> The prosecuter could make a very long game of this.
>>
>> It's going to be a long time if ever before this man sees freedom.  I 
>> really can't see him on the streets in 21 years, but even if that 
>> were to happen he'd be unlikely to survive a year on the outside.  
>> He's made an awful lot of enemies.
>>
>> regards, Anthony
>>
>>    "Of what use is lens and light
>>     to those who lack in mind and sight"
>>                                                (Anon)
>>
>
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