On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:26 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Chinese made junk is only junky because the companies that outsource > to China cheap out and specify to make the products cheaply. > > The Chinese are plenty capable of making very high quality products if > their customers are willing to pay for that quality.
That may be true in some instances, but it's certainly not the case in regard to automobiles. Chinese engineered and manufactured cars are of very poor qualtity. That's one reason why GM and others have been so successful in that market. They do okay assembling other manufacturers automobiles. For example, China is now making Hondas for China. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/business/in-a-first-chinese-built-cars-arrive-in-north-america.html Paul > > Also, not every thing that used to be made in your home country was > top of the line, high quality products. The US was making plenty of > crap before China got involved, and Japan used to be known for making > cheap shit before they got their acts together and started competing > on quality. > > Eventually, China and India will outsource to other, poorer parts of > the world as their workforce becomes too expensive, and the process > will continue on. I predict that Africa will be the next big > outsourcing region. > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM, William Robb > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 22/12/2011 1:37 PM, Tom C wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> The 'we must remain competitive' argument only works if those >>> displaced have suitable and equal alternatives to the lost >>> opportunity. Guess what? That costs money so there's little interest >>> in doing that, as it again affects short term profitability. Those >>> involved in the manufacturing sector that have lost jobs could have >>> been trained and employed in the high tech sector, but to 'remain >>> competitive' those jobs were also outsourced. It's simply a lie. >> >> >> What, you can't program computers while living in a tent someplace like your >> competition in South Asia? >> Where's your American ingenuity? Take an old bicycle and a furnace motor and >> make a generator to run your laptop, put that good for nothing offspring of >> yours to work making electricity and get your sorry ass back to work. >> Sheesh Tom, do I have to spell everything out for you? >> >> Frankly it galls me that everything I sell now comes from China, not that I >> have anything in particular against the Chinese. I spent many very contented >> evenings with my body against a Chinese girl, but that is all I've ever had >> against them. >> OTOH, I find it ironic that Milwaukee tools come from China, not the USA, >> that DeWalt is now an offshore brand name, etc. >> This stuff used to be made in the USA and it was really good equipment that >> would last a lifetime of hard use. Not so any more. >> Now it's expensive disposable junk that wears out under moderate use in a >> few years. >> >> I say bring your manufacturing back home, and start making good stuff again. >> You may not be able to compete on price, but I know for a fact that you can >> compete on quality, and I know from experience that people will pay a bit >> more, knowing that the product they are buying won't have to be replaced >> shortly after the warranty expires. >> >> And why is it that the only garlic I can buy locally comes from China? Don't >> we grow the stuff in BC? >> >> -- >> >> William Robb >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > David Parsons Photography > http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com > > Aloha Photographer Photoblog > http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
