On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> The very nature of performing arts means that works are often interpreted by 
> someone other than the writer/composer. The performers are artists in their 
> own rights. Works are interpreted and presented from the unique perspective 
> of the performer(s).
> 
> The visual arts are such that a finished work is presented to the viewer. 
> Yes, that work can be later modified or re-interpreted by the artist but that 
> (in my eyes) is a new work.
> 
> So she takes the work of others and re-interprets them. She is very skillful 
> at what she does. That's about all I get from this. I don't know whether it's 
> art or not; I guess that's not even a pertinent question.
> 
> Is it wrong? Assuming all copyright laws are complied with, I don't think so. 
> However I still don't feel good about it. It's kind of like drawing a 
> moustache on the Mona Lisa: It may be art but I don't have to like it.

Agreed. No one has to like it or feel good about it. But it's not wrong or 
immoral.

> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Joseph McAllister <[email protected]>
> Sent: January 20, 2012 1/20/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: So wrong
> 
> On Jan 20, 2012, at 07:55 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know, but it would seem there are copyright issues in what she's 
>>> doing.
>> 
>> I doubt it. I would assume either she has permission or the copyrights have 
>> expired. She's doing it very publicly. And very well IMO. Quite Obviously, a 
>> lot of skill and artistic ability is required to achieve the results she's 
>> accomplished. I applaud that. 
> 
> On "Shorpy.com" there are a few members who regularly colorize the presented 
> B&W images that are culled from the Library of Congress's publicly available 
> collections. Some even compete for best rendering. I have no problem with 
> that at all. They are no longer hunched over a pinned down print with their 
> tubes of Marshall Transparent Oils and a selection of fine sable brushes for 
> the detail work.
> 
> The colorized versions that are posted bring to life the rather ho-hum images 
> that display life in the late 19th century through the mid-20th century when 
> color film rose to consumer usage. I find some of the works delightful.
> 
> Most of the images are from collections donated to the Library, or shot for 
> the WPA and other government projects. As such they are in the public domain. 
> Once available only by entering the LOC and perusing their catalog, they are 
> now available to all in super sized HD scans from 4x5 to (commonly early 
> images) 8 x 10 glass negatives. You ain't seen a pano until you've seen  
> beautifully stitched images from 8 x 10 glass negs. 
> 
> Getting these images digitized and "out there" to nuts like me who save some 
> or all of the Shorpy presented images builds multi backed up records of days 
> long gone. A percentage of the negatives are being eaten by mold, and could 
> not be preserved if it weren't for scanning and public display.
> 
> 
>> I think we sometimes get caught up in a contemporary pretension that applies 
>> some kind of arbitrary judgement to creative endeavors. Whether the lady's 
>> work is fine art or not is not for me to judge. But it's certainly artful, 
>> and it's most certainly not "wrong."
> 
> My feelings exactly Paul.
> 
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> 
> Joseph McAllister
> [email protected]
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> http://gallery.me.com/jomac
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