This is silly.  Just because a piece of paper is 8x10 doesn't require
that the final print fill the paper.  And while 8x10 seems to be
something of a "standard", I believe that other sizes are standard in
other countries, like 8.5x11 ... iac, there's no reason that the
photographer must use standard sized paper and fill it to the borders.

If you're shooting to fill the paper size, then aren't you doing
essentially the same thing as shooting to the film format?  A good lab
will print any size that you want on any sized paper.

Shooting to fill the frame is but one compositional technique, but,
since the 24x36 format is so small, it seems reasonable to try to get
the frame filled as much as possible with your vision.  If you can do it
and use every available mm in the frame, great, then print full frame on
whatever size paper is appropriate.  So what if there's a bit of waste. 
Use the trim for test strips or smaller work prints.

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> 
> One of the reasons that I mentioned cropping
> for several of the shots is because of a habit
> I see many photographers getting into -- shooting
> for the film format, not for the result.
> We try to fill the frame, letting the camera
> determine what should be on the print.  Taking that
> approach often fails us.
> 
> We're often dissatisfied with what we see on paper,
> knowing 100% that that's not what we saw when taking
> the shot.  But we're confused as to where the results went.
> 
> The solution:  Shoot for the content and EXPECT to crop 
> your results.  Overframe a bit.  Be certain that you get 
> everything you want in the frame.
> 
> 24x36 is a 2:3 ratio.
> Unfortunately an 8x10 is not all of a 35mm neg.
> Some labs do 8x12s to give you what you shot.
> A 5x7 is closer.  I don't know of anyone who does
> 5x7.5.  But that's the real problem, isn't it.
> A 4x6 is the right ratio, but it bleeds over.
> Some labs will print full-frame on your 4x6 prints,
> but you also have to ask.

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