I like the Ansel quote. And I think his processing work is perhaps more than 20 
of his production, if one considers only that which gives value to the 
photograph. Studying the notational maps he made to describe his burning and 
dodging procedure, one can only conclude that he was painting with his hands, 
his masks and his pass-through shapes. To that add his coupled 
exposure/development technique. IMO, it's a higher art form than merely 
observing, framing and tripping the shutter. It's not for everyone, but 
minimalizing its worth diminishes only the critic.
Paul

On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Mark C wrote:

> I think about the Ansel quote as about manipulation - for most of his day 
> that would have been filters, development (zone system), and darkroom 
> printing. That's not everything but probably 20% of it. The other 80% is 
> showing up in Yosemite.
> 
> But that's not a photo quote...
> 
> On 3/6/2012 3:19 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Bob W<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> My favourite is "Photography is about noticing things", by Elliot Erwitt.
>>> 
>>> The one I hate most of all is>  •        “You don’t take a photograph, you 
>>> make it.” - Ansel Adams
>>> 
>>> Pretentious bollocks and does nothing to help anyone take a better 
>>> photograph.
>> I understand your annoyance with it, but I don't mind it so much. To
>> me it suggests that once you realize that it takes planning, practice
>> and active participation to get successful images, then your
>> photography will start improving seriously. As opposed to that
>> mindless drive-by point and click that so many tourists are observed
>> doing.
>> 
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