I have Mir 20/2.5
It's big (the front cap has ~82mm diameter, the filters get in the rear
and you cannot use them with ME-Super. My LX is fine with them though)
and heavy. The build is a bit rough -- a far cry from those smooth
Pentax lenses, but it's all metal construction (maybe except the
focusing ring, not sure). The flare is a problem (although it is
multicoated), quality is pretty good (they use rare-earth glass for the
elements), although the edges are soft. I would say, though, it's
passable even at f/2.5. Besides, mine was new for $99 -- can't beat
that. 
I'll be in russia soon, if I find any of thos there, will shurely bring
a few back, I believe one can get one there for as little as $50
(rumours).

 
> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:13:44 GMT
> From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: super-wide-angle options?
> 
> All,
> 
> I'd like to add super-wide-angle capability to my photo setup.  I've
> been 
> mulling over the options, and I'm hoping to get some advice from the
> list.  
> I'd like to go rectilinear rather than fisheye, and here are the
> options I'm 
> considering: 
> 
> Cheap:
>  ------
> Vivitar 19mm or Russian/Ukranian 20mm
> (are either of these worth considering?) 
> 
> Medium:
>  -------
> Tokina 20-35 zoom  (in the $200's)
> Used SMC-M 20mm F4 (around $350) 
> 
> Expensive:
>  ----------
> SMC-A or FA 20mm F2.8 ($400-500)
> FA 20-35mm F4 ($450?) 
> 
> Insanely Expensive
>  -------------------
> Used SMC or SMC-A 15mm ($750-900) 
> 
> With the above options in mind, here are my questions: 
> 
>  1) Are the MIR or Vivitars even worth considering? 
> 
>  2) Is the Pentax 20-35 that much better than the Tokina? 
> 
>  3) Are the primes that much better than the zooms? 
> 
>  4) Anyone out there have experience with the 15mm? 
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!  TTYL, 
> 
>  --Mark (KE6NJ, inactive for more than a decade....)
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