The look and feel is different.  Apple makers a big deal of that.  I'm
not saying it's better;  just harder to base a lawsuit on.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Tom C <[email protected]> wrote:
>> From: Steven Desjardins <[email protected]>
>
>> If you look at windows 8, it follows the interface that was on the
>> Zune.  It's a collection of panels:
>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_8_start_screen.png
>>
>> Each panel has aspects of an icon and a small window.  It's big
>> advantage may be that's it's different from iOs.  Even before this
>> judgement, Samsung had comitted to building phones based on Win 8.
>>
>
> I fail to see how that is any different in substance than any other
> icon-based GUI OS. They made the icons bigger with less space in
> between and called them panels instead. I find it visually confusing,
> There's not enough separation between the panels for me to see them as
> a discrete item, so I'm left to read eac one searching for what I'm
> looking for. I'm sure users will become accustomed or customize the
> panels to their liking.
>
> In Windows 3.1 one could set up big folders and have them tiled across
> the desktop in panel style.
>
> As some have said, these lawsuits are not as much about the details
> and veracity of the claims as they are about a struggle for dominance
> and revenue.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Tom C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> If they were so good, why did they abandon those designs and begin to
>>>> imitate the iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> I also like diversity.  We can have it, if companies develop their
>>>> ideas and dare to be different.  The problem is that, once the iPhone
>>>> came out, the competition found it easier and safer to follow what
>>>> Apple was doing, instead of developing innovative new products that
>>>> would be different from, and competitive with, the iPhone.
>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>
>>> There's only so many ways to make a hand-held computer/telephone that
>>> makes sense. Shape-wise, size-wise, all the ergonomics.
>>>
>>> Why don't you sit down and try to think of the way you would do it if
>>> you were dreaming it up from scratch?
>>>
>>> What shape would your screen be? Circle, square, rectangle?
>>>
>>> What approximate size would it be? Something that fits easily in the
>>> palm of your hand?
>>>
>>> What you want it to be fat and chunky or thin and slim?
>>>
>>> Would you want it to have sharp pointed corners that poked you in your
>>> pocket or is rounded corners better?
>>>
>>> How would you access applications on the phone? If not little pictures
>>> on the screen how would you do it?
>>>
>>> Apple didn't invent anything that was so special and unique. It was a
>>> nice invention, but largely the parameters regarding size, shape,
>>> usability were dictated to Apple by the human form, not Apple genius.
>>>
>>> iOs, Windows, Linux... all icon-based. All use rectangular screens,
>>> all have icons, mouse, keyboards for input.
>>>
>>> So think outside the box... what would you do differently that sets
>>> your product apart from your competitors in a major way?
>>>
>>> Tom C.
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:39:51 -0400
>> From: Steven Desjardins <[email protected]>
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>> Subject: Re: PESO: Dr. Zero
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>> I'm still mining the Philadelphia pictures.  I did see a number of
>> "painted" windows like this, however, especially in the older
>> buildings.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Quite interesting.  Where did you find this building?
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Steven Desjardins <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-QWg37SR/0/XL/zero-XL.jpg
>>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:43:55 -0400
>> From: Steven Desjardins <[email protected]>
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>> Subject: Re: OT: Eyes on Haiti
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>> It's a very powerful set of images.  The HDR stuff is trendy.  I
>> suspect it's because so many folks are using small sensor cameras
>> (like cell phones) and HDR really fixes those images.  That style of
>> image then becomes common and popular.  Just a guess, of course.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I agree with you totally.  He has an excellent eye, and composes some
>>> riveting images.  Often, however, he seems to go overboard on the HDR
>>> or the contrast or something.
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Walter Hamler <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for posting. Some very strong images there. My only nit is the
>>>> strong use of HDR, or whatever he did for the look. I find it so
>>>> overused and overdone that it has become a turnoff. These still got
>>>> the message across, however.
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> We have invited this photographer to present his photo essay on Haiti
>>>>> to our local Rotary club.  I though some here might enjoy these
>>>>> images:
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