Hi Joe,
 Like Flavio said, I think you want the 15mm Pentax, it is a superb
lens, but it`s going to cost you big bucks, save your pennies! Deals
can be had, I got my SMCK 15 for $300 in mint condition from a list
member. If you can`t wait, the Vivitar 17/3.5 MC Wide-Angle (67mm)
is a nice little lens that can be had fairly cheap, it performs very well 
at f8 (but hold out for the Pentax).
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: Still more wide-angle questions


> For ultra-wide, I have the FA 20-35 (a great lens) and the Zenitar 16mm.
> f2.8 fisheye. I am thinking about getting a non-fisheye prime that is
> wider than the FA 20-35. The choices seem to be:
> 
> 17 mm. (Tamron, Tokina): 104 degree diagonal field
> 15 mm. (Pentax, if one can find used) 111 degree diagonal field
> 14 mm. (Sigma, Tamron) 114 degree diagonal field
> 
> Now, at 20 mm. the FA 20-35 has a 94 degree diagonal view. The 17s are
> small and affordable, but only give an additional 10 degrees of diagonal
> view. The 14s and 15 give much more view but are expensive and heavy,
> and these lenses have design limits - weaker at the edges, light
> fall-off, flare in the non-Pentax brands.
> 
> I use very wide-angle for architecture, maybe also for landscapes. I
> find that I use the FA 20-35 a lot, and that it gives me perhaps my
> highest percentage of "keepers." The options I am pondering are:
> 
> 1. Get a 17 - small, inexpensive, but is the extra 10 degrees of view
> worth carrying around an extra lens?
> 
> 2. Get a 14 or 15 - gives the extra view, but has the limits noted
> above.
> 
> 3. Just make do with the FA 20-35 and the Zenitar 16 mm. fisheye.
> 
> What do wide-angle users think?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
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