This is where archive standard processing is so important. I look at some prints I made nearly 50 years ago and some look as fresh as the day they were made, whereas others that obviously did not receive the same care in fixing and washing are beginning to look three times as ancient. I have on my corkboard a print I made some 12 years ago using an Epson (can't remember the model now) inkjet printer which has not faded at all, but others made sincehave lost colour ranges after a comparatively short time, as little as six months. I can't think that the paper and ink used on the long-lasting print were rated as archival, but something obviously went right. Is there a combination of ink and paper that has performed well and could be considered of archival quality?
John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gasha Sent: Friday, 28 September 2012 8:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: "student" cameras still film? I really like that silver based paper and archival properties of BW materials. Every time i look at fading 6-year old Fuji Color print, i know that i will print more BW. Of course, there is that "magic" also :) Gasha On 09/27/2012 09:57 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > The students I know that have taken this classes really enjoyed using > film and the darkroom work. With so much electronic these days, they > rarely get to produce something like that by hand. There's still > something magic about the print appearing in the developer tray. > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM, David J Brooks<[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:15 PM, John Sessoms<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> A lot of photography classes still include B&W darkroom. In theory, >>> some basics (shutter speed, aperture, exposure, sunny16 ...) are >>> learned better when the student has to understand them without just >>> looking at the little TV on the back of the camera. >> >> A bus driver friend has a friend with a daughter in high school. They >> needed to buy a 35mm film camera, no digital. >> >> Dave >>> >>> The school I attended required every first year student to have a >>> medium format camera when I started it back in 2005. When I returned >>> to finish my degree in 2010, first year students were required to >>> have a Canon/Nikon DSLR (so they could use the school's lenses) and >>> the school provided medium format cameras (through equipment >>> check-out) for the students to use in those lessons. Students just >>> had to buy their own film& chemistry. >>> >>> My first year we had a materials and processes class that covered >>> the basics& the chemistry of film, film processing and printing >>> paper. When I went back, the first year students still had to learn >>> those, but the course now included the chemistry of inks& ink jet papers. >>> >>> Plus film is very hip now-a-days. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> York Region, Ontario, Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

