On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:52 PM, "P.J. Alling" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 6/4/2013 2:56 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> no one has yet produced a machine that can conduct interviews and generate >> good copy. > Have you actually seen a second tier newspaper lately. The day's when a > reporter could spell and actually generate good copy have been over for > years. Even the NYT and WSJ have spelling and grammatical errors in them > that make me cringe. If I notice those errors they're really, really bad. > Train the photographers, hell most papers could train monkeys to do better. > I read small market newspapers on a regular basis, and I've written features for some of them. Local papers do tend to be somewhat haphazard, but they at least give a voice to the community. Breaking news in the Times and Journal may occasionally include some gaffes, but they're rare. Feature articles are tightly edited by both department heads and copy editors, then signed off on by the writers. Find a grammatical mistake in a Times feature article. I don't think you can. Paul > On 6/4/2013 2:56 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Walt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 6/4/2013 1:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Matthew Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:11 AM, John Sessoms <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Too bad I don't have a subscription to cancel. >>>>>> Why, might I ask? Does it matter how the paper gets their photos? Not >>>>>> much resolution is required for reproduction on newsprint stock. >>>>> Not to answer for John, but my concern wouldn't be the camera used, >>>>> but the firing of the photojournalists and the loss of their >>>>> expertise. >>>>> >>>> A good point. The jobs of some photographers will go away. I provide both >>>> copy and photos for all of the pubs I work for, but that's not common. >>>> However, it might have to be if newspapers are to survive. They can't make >>>> ends meet on the old model. That's been proven. Cost cutting is essential, >>>> and if a quality product can be delivered at less cost by combining >>>> photographer and journalist roles -- even at larger pubs -- it's going to >>>> happen. The other choice is no newspaper and no jobs. >>>> >>>> BTW, most newspaper staff photographer jobs are already gone. The vast >>>> majority of pubs depend on freelancers at minimal rates when they have to >>>> and use stock photography much of the time. Training reporters to generate >>>> their own photos might actually be an upgrade. >>> I'm not so sure it will work out any better than it would have if they'd >>> just fired all the reporters and trained the photographers to write. >> I assume you're being facetious, but as I said, the staff photographers are >> already gone for the most part. And while cameras have become capable of >> getting most of the technical details of a photograph right, no one has yet >> produced a machine that can conduct interviews and generate good copy. That >> too may be coming, but, thankfully, it won't be in my lifetime. >> Paul >>> -- Walt >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive > failure, and those that will. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
