While I'm sure that there is some engineering involved to make the SR
mechanisms handle a larger full frame sensor, in practice the software
change should be rather trivial. Due to the 1.5x FOV factor being done
away with, all one would have to do is a mathematical change in the
focal length that is displayed on the LCD. (What was formerly a 75mm
would become a 50mm). The "problem" is that I don't think there WAS a
75mm (it was 85mm) but my point is (hopefully) taken. The algorithm
probably needs few changes but the display focal lengths would.

I think the bigger problem is in the processing engine and the number
of AF points. If you are coming from Pentax's AFS-C design perspective
to full frame, I would leave the 11 AF points where they are and then
design more around the periphery (of the larger sensor). Adding a
minimum of 12 might do it, but you have a lot of computational changes
to make to accommodate them. In addition, you have a larger filesize
to process and write to disk (new territory for Pentax) so the buffer
might again be a problem for continuous shooting.

I think that Pentax should probably not shoot for PRO land here, but
ENTHUSIAST land in their first full frame DSLR. Then take the lessons
learned and apply them to the next generation. I think that the body
will have to be somewhat bigger, just to accommodate the larger
mirror/pentaprism needed for a full frame. It wouldn't bother me if
they ignored video COMPLETELY on a full frame camera, but I doubt that
the marketing department would be very excited about that.

I'm not sure that anyone who isn't familiar with the injection molding
(plastics) business can truly appreciate the amount of time and
complexity that goes into a significant new revision (like a full
frame camera would entail). My employers own three injection molding
plants and an injection mold machining business. That's (probably) why
the past several models have all pretty much been in the same K-5
body. A full frame would be a BIG departure from that.

And that isn't even considering the software side of things. There are
reasons that things take time.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM, George Sinos <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you do in-body shake reduction with larger sensors?
>
> I doubt the N or C would put it in the body anyway.  They make too
> much money on the lenses and have spent too much time telling everyone
> that it's better when it's in the lens.
>
> gs
> George Sinos
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>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how much scaling up would be required the hypothetical FF
>> Pentax would require for a FF mirror box.  If you compare a *ist-D and a
>> *ist-Ds and an ZX/MZ-5n, you'll find that the *ist-D has the same size
>> mirror box as the ZX/MZ camera and the *ist-Ds camera has a mirror box and
>> mirror more in keeping with an APS-C sensor.  Yet it isn't appreciably
>> smaller for that, the volume just seems to be distributed differently.  Now
>> the shake reduction system might require a slightly different form factor,
>> but then again it might not.
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2013 5:18 PM, John wrote:
>>>
>>> I ran across this in a discussion thread in DPReview comparing the Nikon
>>> D600 to the Nikon D7100.
>>>
>>> I've mentioned here before that I've been looking closely at the Nikon
>>> D600 and consider its specifications to be a minimum starting point for
>>> what any Pentax FF must offer. Still, it has some shortcomings from my
>>> point of view (beyond Nikon having put their IS in the lenses).
>>>
>>> Someone mentioned the D7100 as an example of what a Pentax K5II
>>> follow-on camera would need to be, so I took a look at its specs on
>>> DPReview and it seems to have fixed every concern I had about the D600
>>> (other than IS which I understand ain't gonna' happen).
>>>
>>> http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/articles/equivalence/ff.html
>>>
>>> Semi-OT because the author bases his design of a hypothetical compact FF
>>> Nikon "D800c" on scaling up the the Pentax K5 body to fit in a FF sensor
>>> & mirror box.
>>>
>>> The rest of the article doesn't matter all that much, but I thought it
>>> was interesting for the suggestion that Nikon should be taking design
>>> cues from Pentax.
>>>
>>
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