being, ahem, an oldster - it didn't occur to me that some -wouldn't-
know (in NOrth America anyway) that weiner and hot dog were the same.
Commercial jingle "I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Weiner" now starts
ringing in my head. The news media , especially it seems to me the
_print_ media had such fun the first time the transgression was, um,
exposed a couple of years ago. Now it's getting old and most in New
York just wish he would shut up and quit running for mayor. It's
embarrassing.
Enjoyed your gastronomical history, P.J.
Vienna Sausages were standard camping/backpacking fare too, at least for
us back in the 60's.
ann
On 7/29/2013 23:15, P.J. Alling wrote:
The reason Der Wienerschnitzel specialized in Hotdogs rather than
Breaded Cutlets and German Noodles came about because of Vienna
Sausages. I believe they originated in the late 1890's, a particularly
strange delicacy when you think about it, found mostly in the North East
U.S. I suspect like the English Muffin, what ever they are based on
from Vienna would be unrecognizable to an American visiting Vienna, as
would the "Cocktail Wienie" be unrecognizable in it's Americanized form
to a Viennese. Heck it seems most Americans don't make the connection,
which is probably why Der Wienerschnitzel chain is falling on hard times.
You can still find them sold as Tinned Vienna Cocktail Frankfurters.
Now this is conjecture based on nothing more than the fact that oldsters
in my family refereed to Frankfurters as Wieners, and Dachshunds, Wiener
Dogs, (due to their elongated bodies), the terms Frankfurter, Wiener,
and Hotdog, became interchangeable at least in the North East sometime
early in the 20th Century.
That's part of why Anthony Wiener sending photos of that proud bit of
his anatomy seems so apropos.
<Darth Vader> It was, his destiny. </darth vader>
On 7/29/2013 6:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:02:06AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote:
Excellent New Topographics shot.
Thanks.
What did it use to be?
There is an American fast-food chain called Der Wienerschnitzel.
They were primarily drive throughs, with some outside seating,
but no dining room. They all had these marvelously tacky A-frame
buildings.
The chain has been on decline for quite some time, and the Santa Cruz
location was shut down a few years back.
Their food was primarily hot dogs. I have no idea why they chain
is called Wienershnitzel, since as we've discussed, wienershnitzel
has nothing to do with hot dogs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog
The word frankfurter comes from Frankfurt, Germany, where pork
sausages similar to hot dogs originated.[6] These sausages,
Frankfurter Würstchen, were known since the 13th century and given to
the people on the event of imperial coronations, starting with the
coronation of Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor as King. Wiener refers
to Vienna, Austria, whose German name is "Wien", home to a sausage
made of a mixture of pork and beef[7] (cf. Hamburger, whose name also
derives from a German-speaking city). Johann Georg Lahner, a 18th/19th
century butcher from the Franconian city of Coburg, is said to have
brought the Frankfurter Würstchen to Vienna, where he added beef to
the mixture and simply called it Frankfurter.[8] Nowadays, in German
speaking countries, except Austria, hot dog sausages are called Wiener
or Wiener Würstchen (Würstchen means "little sausage"), in
differentiation to the original pork only mixture from Frankfurt. In
Swiss German, it is called Wienerli, while in Austria the terms
Frankfurter or Frankfurter Würstel are used.
On 28/07/2013 9:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/
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