On 8/2/2013 1:20 AM, Bill wrote:
I've been on Model Mayhem for a few years (wrphoto). I've found that
the best approach is the most forward approach. I'm up front that this
is a hobby, and that I am pretty much a GWC (most of the togs on MM
fit the same description), after that, if I find a model in my area
that I like the look of, I get in touch (presuming their bio agrees
with what I want), and ask if they want to shoot. Make sure you have
some sort of theme in mind, even if it's just a glorified lighting
test and all you'll be doing is head shots (it's amazing how few
models on MM have good head shots in their bio).
Remember, most of the models are not professionals, they are in it for
fun and because they just want some nice pictures of themselves.
I wouldn't think about cosmetics unless you are a qualified make up
artist. That is a pretty specialized art unto itself. I supply lights,
camera and location, and I let the model supply the action. If you
need an MUA, either find one in your area that you like, or let the
model do her own with her own supplies.
I think the biggie with MM is to not be an ass about stuff. If you
promise 10 images from the shoot, deliver 12. If you promise to
deliver them in a couple of weeks, make sure you have them to the
model in 10 days.
As far as meeting in advance to set things up, I'm on the fence. I'm
55 years old, and I don't have ANYTHING in common with a 20 year old
girl other than we are both interested in how she looks. Meetings in
advance, for me, are really awkward affairs. Meet for coffee, try not
to be too creepy, and try not to scare the girl off.
I don't do meetings in advance.
YMMV.
Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. If it works, I get to
spend some time doing something I really enjoy doing, if it doesn't, I
find something else to do.
Either way, keep whatever ego you have in check, don't be a pompous
ass, and do what you say you are going to do, and a little more.
Remember that even if its TFP, the model has a stake in the shoot.
For me, it's all about the model. If my photography gets in the way of
the shoot, I'm not doing my job.
bill
Thanks, Bill.
One of the reasons I figured it would be a good idea to meet the model
before the shoot was to get some ideas for themes and maybe get a sense
of the personalities involved. But, at the same time, I can see where
that might lead to some "conflict of vision" issues, so I guess that may
be something to do on a case-by-case basis.
As for the makeup, I see your point. And I'm sure any model will be sure
to bring her own makeup in the event the need for touch-ups presents
itself. I do have a friend who's offered to serve as a MUA (gratis), and
I may call upon her at some point.
So far, I've been pretty lucky about presenting subjects with plenty of
good shots when the shoot is over. The last few I've done, I've managed
to present them with 40+ shots, and they've all been very happy with
them. I doubt I'll give that many to the models I use, since I figure
I'll need to be a more ruthless editor. Still, I figure it's better to
under-promise and over-deliver in all cases. And I really don't see my
ego getting in the way of the shoot -- though, I suppose one never knows
until first contact with the enemy, as it were.
It does help that I'm still viewing this all as a learning experience,
so I won't be going into any shoots with an inflated sense of expertise.
And, so far at least, I haven't had any trouble connecting with any of
my subjects.
Thanks again!
-- Walt
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