Kelby reminds me of what I constantly tell my students, Don't forget
to have fun.

If the commercials start to bother me, I use the fast forward slider
at the bottom of the video.  (You can do this on the youtube version,
not the kelbytv.com version of the shows.)

This show was interesting because they talked about what appeals to
non-photographers that might be looking at your website.  As I
recently mentioned in another thread, what appeals to photographers is
very often not what appeals to non-photographers.  It was certainly
opinion, but the opinion of three guys that have a lot of insight to
the commercial world.

All of the shows at the kelbytv website are free.  The commercials are
there to promote NAPP, the paid videos on kelbytraining.com and his
books.  That's how they make their money and can afford to provide all
of the free stuff like PhotoshopTV and Photography Tips and tricks and
all of the other free shows that a lot of people find informative and
entertaining.

The Grid, in particular, is a fun, weekly talk show that is often as
much nonsense as good information.  I play it on a second screen while
I'm doing something else.  When I hear something interesting it can
get my full attention, that's surprisingly often.  The monthly
portfolio reviews are particularly interesting.  I don't always agree
with them, but the comments certainly make you think.  The comments of
the guest photographer are usually the most interesting.  If it
weren't for this show I wouldn't have the opportunity to hear
photographers like Joe McNally, Dave Black, Tim Wallace (and a long
list of others) without spending quite a bit of money.  The best part
is hearing them in informal conversation instead of what you normally
see in an edited book, or polished presentation.  The questions from
the hosts are usually good, but the questions that come in from the
live chat are often even better.  Like any other regular program, some
are gems, some are dogs, but on average they are pretty good.

I think there are a lot of people that are annoyed by Kelby's light
hearted style.  Frankly, I much prefer it to the dry, boring style of
so many videos on the web.  It reminds me not to take myself so
seriously.  In his books the intro to each chapter is especially
light.  In the forward to his books he says the intros are only there
to give you a mind a break between chapters full of technical stuff
and recommends that if you don't like it, you can feel free to skip
them without missing anything important.

It's very much like PDML, a lot of good information mixed in with long
lists of puns, operating system whining, brand name angst and other
off topic fun stuff.  I don't read every post, but I open and scan all
of them looking for the good stuff and also read a lot of the fun
stuff.

gs
George Sinos
--------------------
www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Brian Walters <[email protected]> wrote:
> Quoting Bob Sullivan <[email protected]>:
>
>> After 5:30 of commercials, I couldn't stand it anymore.
>> Quit, no info was provided.
>
>
>
> You made it that far?
>
> Kelby's 'happy talk' style of presentation really grates after a short time.
> I feel much the same way about his writing style.
>
> Or maybe I'm just grumpy today...
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM, George Sinos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yesterday's episode of The Grid was interesting.  Instead of doing a
>>> critique of photos, Colby Brown, Scott Kelby and Matt Kloskowski gave
>>> their opinions and advice on the photographer's websites.  Matt K
>>> actually tried to keep things on topic and there was significantly
>>> less random chatter than usual.
>>>
>>> I'm sure everyone won't agree with what they say, but their comments
>>> are certainly worth considering.   They were mainly talking about
>>> sites that were trying to sell photos, not casual photo sharing.
>>>
>>> This is episode 109. <http://youtu.be/y3uaE8uTOhY>
>>>
>>> gs
>>>
>>> George Sinos
>>> --------------------
>>> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
>>> www.GeorgeSinos.com
>>>
>>> --
>
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