Kelby reminds me of what I constantly tell my students, Don't forget to have fun.
If the commercials start to bother me, I use the fast forward slider at the bottom of the video. (You can do this on the youtube version, not the kelbytv.com version of the shows.) This show was interesting because they talked about what appeals to non-photographers that might be looking at your website. As I recently mentioned in another thread, what appeals to photographers is very often not what appeals to non-photographers. It was certainly opinion, but the opinion of three guys that have a lot of insight to the commercial world. All of the shows at the kelbytv website are free. The commercials are there to promote NAPP, the paid videos on kelbytraining.com and his books. That's how they make their money and can afford to provide all of the free stuff like PhotoshopTV and Photography Tips and tricks and all of the other free shows that a lot of people find informative and entertaining. The Grid, in particular, is a fun, weekly talk show that is often as much nonsense as good information. I play it on a second screen while I'm doing something else. When I hear something interesting it can get my full attention, that's surprisingly often. The monthly portfolio reviews are particularly interesting. I don't always agree with them, but the comments certainly make you think. The comments of the guest photographer are usually the most interesting. If it weren't for this show I wouldn't have the opportunity to hear photographers like Joe McNally, Dave Black, Tim Wallace (and a long list of others) without spending quite a bit of money. The best part is hearing them in informal conversation instead of what you normally see in an edited book, or polished presentation. The questions from the hosts are usually good, but the questions that come in from the live chat are often even better. Like any other regular program, some are gems, some are dogs, but on average they are pretty good. I think there are a lot of people that are annoyed by Kelby's light hearted style. Frankly, I much prefer it to the dry, boring style of so many videos on the web. It reminds me not to take myself so seriously. In his books the intro to each chapter is especially light. In the forward to his books he says the intros are only there to give you a mind a break between chapters full of technical stuff and recommends that if you don't like it, you can feel free to skip them without missing anything important. It's very much like PDML, a lot of good information mixed in with long lists of puns, operating system whining, brand name angst and other off topic fun stuff. I don't read every post, but I open and scan all of them looking for the good stuff and also read a lot of the fun stuff. gs George Sinos -------------------- www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Brian Walters <[email protected]> wrote: > Quoting Bob Sullivan <[email protected]>: > >> After 5:30 of commercials, I couldn't stand it anymore. >> Quit, no info was provided. > > > > You made it that far? > > Kelby's 'happy talk' style of presentation really grates after a short time. > I feel much the same way about his writing style. > > Or maybe I'm just grumpy today... > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM, George Sinos <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Yesterday's episode of The Grid was interesting. Instead of doing a >>> critique of photos, Colby Brown, Scott Kelby and Matt Kloskowski gave >>> their opinions and advice on the photographer's websites. Matt K >>> actually tried to keep things on topic and there was significantly >>> less random chatter than usual. >>> >>> I'm sure everyone won't agree with what they say, but their comments >>> are certainly worth considering. They were mainly talking about >>> sites that were trying to sell photos, not casual photo sharing. >>> >>> This is episode 109. <http://youtu.be/y3uaE8uTOhY> >>> >>> gs >>> >>> George Sinos >>> -------------------- >>> www.GeorgesPhotos.net >>> www.GeorgeSinos.com >>> >>> -- > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

