Darren, the article you generalized from relates to Nikon D300. This would be two full generations ago in terms of camera sensors technology.

Have a look here:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d4-digital-slr-sample-photos-18753

Looks usable to me. Of course there is a trick here - if you will look at shutter speed and aperture it would become clear that the light wasn't lacking during these tests.

Here for example:
http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/galleries/sample-images/nikon/34402/1/13/nikon-d4-review-sample-images-gallery.html

it does not look as spectacular.

I could here quote yourself saying that you'd rather have video and choose not to use it, and add that you couldn't even set your Pentax to ISO so high, but that would be totally beside the point.

Finally, I should point out that I will be very curious as to image quality this new Nikon might offer. It is because:

1. I wonder what kind of improvements (or not) Nikon engineers managed to get done between introduction of Nikon D4 and Nikon Df.

2. Personally, I prefer bigger sensors with less pixels, and therefore Df would fit my preferences much better than 36 MP D800. So it will be interesting to see real life use examples of Nikon Df.

Boris




On 11/5/2013 9:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
That's "expanded ISO", which is pretty worthless in reality.

Pentax K-5ii: Manual: 100-12800 (1, 1/2, 1/3 steps), expandable to ISO
80-51200, Bulb mode up to ISO 1600
Pentax K-3: Auto: ISO 100-51200 (1, 1/2, 1/3 steps), Auto ISO range
selectable, Bulb mode: Auto ISO n/a; Manual: 100-51200 (1, 1/2, 1/3
steps)
Nikon DF: ISO 100 to 12800 in steps of 1/3 EV; can also be set to
approx. 0.3, 0.7 or 1 EV (ISO 50 equivalent) below ISO 100 or to
approx. 0.3, 0.7, 1, 2, 3 or 4 EV (ISO 204800 equivalent) above ISO
12800;

Here's what Nikon engineers say about "expanded ISO":
http://joefaraceblogs.com/expanded-iso-settings-why-i-dont-likeem/
And here is Fuji's explanation of their "extended ISO":
http://www.fujirumors.com/how-to-use-extended-iso/

The manual ISO numbers are all that matter.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Boris Liberman <[email protected]> wrote:
Here: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-df it says that ISO does go to
204,800, so at least I can read :-).


On 11/5/2013 8:38 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

No, that's because Nikon calls H1 the 25600 and H4 the 51200 settings.
Dario

-----Messaggio originale----- From: Dario Bonazza
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Nikon Df

Likely because engraved dials have no room enough for more.

Dario

-----Messaggio originale----- From: Richard Womer
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Nikon Df

16 megapixels, "full-frame", and yet (according to specs on DPReview)
maximum ISO is 12,800.

Huh?

Rick


On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:06 , Mark Roberts wrote:

Kenneth Waller <[email protected]> wrote:

No. I expected better from Nikon. looks clunky to me but the
important issue is the images it produces.


16 megapixels in full frame (surely chosen to prevent it taking sales
away from the D610) means sacrificing a little resolution in order to
gain excellent noise levels. (I would hope.)

But if the interface is really clunky none of the above will help with
the shots you miss...

So this is one camera of which I really wouldn't want to be an Early
Adopter. Wait for a good user base to pick out its real strong and
weak points.

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