On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: >> Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say >> that. > > The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. > > Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson > there > about not seeing the photo for the pixels. > Right! I just went back and looked at my on-line image, K-3 at 51200: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830/h3fa48447#h3107f624 Considering that I did zero nada nothing to process the images, I think I would be comfortable shooting at this speed if I need to. Tomorrow I may play with LR noise reduction, etc. but that is part of why I put the DNG images into Dropbox - let others see what they could do with these raw materials and some processing tricks . . .
[Pun intended.] stan >> >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: >> >>> Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the >>> K-5ii. >>> Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops >>> an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . >>> >>> >>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: >>>>> It was raining today. Pretty much all day. >>>>> >>>>> I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for >>>>> lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by >>>>> side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I >>>>> did a few series of a "still life" with both cameras, repeated with and >>>>> without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark >>>>> rain clouds. >>>> >>>> I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the >>>> ones with just ISO in the title? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The images may be viewed as follows: >>>>> >>>>> I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the >>>>> K-3 manual and an "index page" that describes ISO & camera & NR On/Off >>>>> for each image. (Included below as well). >>>>> >>>>> Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. >>>>> Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size >>>>> images. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both >>>>> cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. >>>>> >>>>> Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter >>>>> activation with mirror lockup. >>>>> >>>>> You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I >>>>> screwed up. Shoot me. >>>>> >>>>> Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB >>>>> >>>>> Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups >>>>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 >>>>> >>>>> Index: >>>>> >>>>> K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names >>>>> >>>>> NR Off NR On >>>>> >>>>> K-3 K-5ii K-3 >>>>> K-5ii >>>>> >>>>> ISO100 A0020 6017 A0026 6022 >>>>> >>>>> ISO800 A0021 6018 A0027 6022 >>>>> >>>>> ISO 6400 A0022 6019 A0028 6024 >>>>> >>>>> ISO 25600 6020 >>>>> 6025 >>>>> >>>>> ISO 51200 A0024 6021 A0029 60026 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg) 6027 >>>>> >>>>> K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 >>>>> >>>>> K3 & K5ii pictures B0369-0371 >>>>> >>>>> AF360 FGZ & AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 >>>>> >>>>> I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify >>>>> that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. >>>>> >>>>> stan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Larry Colen [email protected] >>>> http://red4est.com/lrc >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen [email protected] http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
