"Here, Here." You did good, Ken. Jack
----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Waller <[email protected]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Sparrows, now at twice the focal length! You got it Larry! When I made the suggestion I assumed you had more image to crop from. Having the subject looking into the scene tends to keep the viewers eye in the frame. -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Colen <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Sparrows, now at twice the focal length! > >On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:44:25PM -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote: >> Tue Dec 24 15:11:13 EST 2013 >> Larry Colen wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 03:06:22PM -0500, Ken Waller wrote: >> > > I much prefer the second or sixth image. With the second I'd want to >> > > see him looking into the frame instead of out of it - you have a >> > > good pose and a catchlight in the eye in both the second and the >> > > sixth. >> > >> > Thanks for the feedback. Even at 500mm there was a lot of extra >> > room in the frame so I just centered the bird and used the center >> > autofocus point then did my composition when I cropped, so I can >> > easily recompose with the bird further to the right in the frame. >> >> I guess, what Ken is talking about is not the framing but rather how >> the head is turned. I agree with that. > >I can't go back and change the head, but here is a reframing of it: >http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/11543308935/ >original: >http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/11526991656 > > >> >> I like LRC10100 the most. >> I think that one is what Ken referred to as "the second image". >> The "sixth" (10107) is just a bit too much straight, it needs >> just a bit more turn of the head. > >I'm afraid that that isn't something I can do anything about. > >Today, I was prepared to go back out with bigma and monopod. Before >lunch, on my way to the lab, the birds were out in force. >In the afternoon, when I had time to shoot, waiting for the installation >program to finish, they were gone, nary a sparrow to be seen. > >> >> Best, >> >> Igor >> >> PS. Regarding the "model": >> In some countries, sparrows are a nuisance, pretty much like pigeons >> at a city square. I know, I also like taking photos of something that >> "normal" people consider as nuisance at best, or ugly and gross >> otherwise. >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > >-- >Larry Colen [email protected] http://red4est.com/lrc > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

