On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:14:35PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Nitin Garg wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:39:59PM -0700, Bill D. Casselberry wrote:
> > >  Nitin wrote:
> > >
> 
> > 
> > Doesnt always work. Did the US govt say that to sept 11 and move on ?
> 
> That has nothing to do with the death of a lady who was incidental to
> world politics. You are not thinking very clearly, Nitin.

It has if u bother to stop and think about what it was said in response
to. You dont always let go of something which happens saying oh, its
becuase of a heap of history. No one thinks bin laden was a victim and
pushed into terrorism (well maybe his supporters do). You hold him
RESPONSIBLE for what he did. You dont say well so and so things happened
in his life which made him do so but otherwise he is good man. So you
cant say hey she just happened to become queen and her ancestors did all
the colonization. She continued it and by that endorsed it. Even though
one is not responsible for what was done in past but one can become a
party to it depending upon how you choose to react to it. Some do
remember what your predecessors did and DO hold you responsible (you can
say its shouldnt be so, but if it is, it is). Sept 11 wouldnt have
happened if no one was like that. No one is going to land a plane in
buckingham palace but some do hold its present and past inhabitants
responsible for a lot (even if it was done passively).

> > 
> > So while many may rightly feel loss at her death, there are others in
> > the world who are, again rightly, not at all unhappy about her death.
> 
> Only a mindless few.

Even if they indeed are few and are mindless, they exist and exist in
this world. Which is what i said to begin with. Not everyone is sad to
see her die. Also this is a dangerous classification to make. For eg, I
KNOW a fair fraction of indians dont like british in general (and
british authorities in particular). With a population of over a billion,
that is NOT FEW (Its more than the population of US itself if I
extrapolate from fractions I know). Second, calling them "mindless" is
only refusing to try to see WHY they might have such an opinion. And
that is only inviting disasters in future (like sept 11 was). One may
wipe out taliban once but what about 20yrs down the line when their
children grow up remembering the bombs that destroyed their lives ? Its
likely they will grow up hating a lot of things (of course its possible
to do "something" to prevent/control this).
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