On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:

> To me, the point is that you make a full frame DSLR body attractive to
> people who own mostly APS-C lenses. They only have to buy one
> accessory (the 1.4x teleconverter) to make them useable.

But the DA* lenses are superb on APS-C. Why would one want to render them less 
efficient? Doesn’t make much sense. I remain convinced that the Pentax pro body 
is the 645D. And my interaction with Pentax marketing seems to support that.

Paul
> 
> Rather than seeing FF body and lens kits, don't be surprised if you
> see FF body and "full frame converter" kits.
> 
> This is little different than people buying adapters to put different
> lenses on their Sony full frame Alpha 7.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Dario Bonazza
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Interesting (?) question: in case the 1.4x TC will allow DA lenses to cover
>> FA sensor format, one could think it's a great way to make all DA lenses
>> work with their intended FOV on a FA body. E.g. a 14mm used alone on a DA
>> body will become a 20mm by using it via the 1.4x TC on a FA body, thus
>> resulting in more or less the same FOV on different format cameras.
>> 
>> Great, but what's the point of spreading the same amount of light gathered
>> by the same front lens on a larger sensor having say the same pixel count
>> (e.g. 24 MP) while losing one stop for exposure?
>> 
>> 
>> Dario
>> 
>> 
>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Dario Bonazza
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:08 PM
>> 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Pentax 1.4x converter
>> 
>> In other words, a 14mm x 1.4x becomes a true 19.6mm lens - hence
>> irrespectively of sensor size - and not an "equivalent to XY mm" on a given
>> format.
>> The question to be answered is whether such a combo of lens and TC will give
>> an image circle covering 24x36mm format or not.
>> Dario
>> 
>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Dario Bonazza
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:04 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Pentax 1.4x converter
>> 
>> No, the 14mm x 1.4x will become a 19.6mm f/4 in itself, whichever camera (if
>> any) you put behind it.
>> In case the resulting image will be large enough to cover the 24x36mm format
>> (not yet confirmed), it will project a FOV corresponding to a 19.6mm f/4
>> lens.
>> Dario
>> 
>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Alastair Robertson
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:54 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Pentax 1.4x converter
>> 
>> wouldn't the lack of a 1.54 crop factor that APC-S sensor cameras have
>> over 35mm frame more-or-less cancel out the 1.4x converter effect so
>> that a DA14mm + 1.4TC on a 35mm frame would end up being a 14/1.54 x
>> 1.4 = 12.7mm FOV on full frame?
>> 
>> Alastair
>> 
>> On 28 January 2014 08:42, Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Mark Roberts
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> (which he says Pentax is calling a "Full Frame Converter")
>>> 
>>> 
>>> WUTT
>>> 
>>> If this is true, is it possible that the converter will allow DA
>>> lenses (that don't quite cover full frame) to cover them adequately
>>> (albeit at 1.4x the focal length). This would be most beneficial to
>>> the faster DA lenses that don't cover full frame:
>>> DA 14mm f/2.8 (21mm equiv. FOV on APS-C) would become a 21mm f/4 on full
>>> frame.
>>> DA* 16-50mm f2.8 (with 24-75mm equiv. FOV) would become a 24-70mm f/4
>>> on full frame
>>> DA* 50-135mm f2.8 (with 75-197mm equiv FOV) would become a 70-190mm f4
>>> on full frame
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