Thanks, Steve.  Good to have feedback from a user—or previous user.  The points 
about RAM are well taken.  I’ve heard about Adobe being slow to fix 
bugs—baffling in this digital-day-an-age.  I agree about Adobe dominating the 
market—good point there.

I have Pixelmator on the laptop and have played around with it.  Interesting 
point you’ve made about the color.

Cheers, Christine



On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:37 PM, steve harley <[email protected]> wrote:

> on 2014-02-01 9:50 Christine Aguila wrote
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> Anyone using Adobe’s Creative Cloud?  Any thoughts, recommendations, or 
>> criticisms?  Lastly, why kind of specs does your computer need to have for 
>> an enjoyable user experience?  Ram, storage, et al.
> 
> i have used Photoshop and Illustrator since the early 90s, and InDesign since 
> its public beta; i had a CC subscription when it launched; canceled it last 
> May when the intro price, $30/month, went up to $50; i doubt my situation is 
> that uncommon — i have a background and a small current sideline as a 
> graphics professional, so i have occasional uses for InDesign, Acrobat, 
> Photoshop & Illustrator, but not quite enough to justify $600/year; that 
> could change (i do a significant amount with QuarkXPress still, but my client 
> supplies a license), and it's nice to think i can jump back into InDesign 
> when needed without forking over "full price"; but by pricing me out, Adobe 
> has caused me to use other tools and gradually lose my chops with the Adobe 
> apps … for example i do text with markdown and sometimes Pages, and i find 
> Pixelmator is great for quick hack jobs on images (has layers, type, and a 
> lot more, but is not nearly as precise, nor do i trust its color)
> 
> when i did subscribe, i found i really disliked CC's required update tool on 
> the Mac; and from a professional standpoint there are serious concerns about 
> no recourse for version-specific bugs and incompatibilities — one can't 
> retain multiple versions of what the subscription supplies, as one could with 
> the traditional license, and Adobe historically has taken years to fix 
> significant bugs introduced by new versions
> 
> overall Adobe doesn't have my confidence; its professional apps have a 
> guaranteed market in the short term, but its long-term strategy seems to be 
> focused on the consumer, not pro, market; i regret that Adobe ever dominated 
> the market as it did, because that set us up for trouble when print 
> publishing stopped being a growth industry — for example, without Adobe's 
> dominance i think it might have felt pressure to gradate prices depending on 
> the subscribers' needs (student pricing is worth looking at, though)
> 
> i do think if you need just Photoshop and LR and you qualify, $10/month is a 
> pretty good price; LightRoom seems to have a growthful future both for pros 
> and consumers, so it may be insulated from the market-dominance side effects
> 
> as for hardware requirements, it depends on the type of documents you 
> produce; with InDesign, longer and/or more complex documents can slow things 
> down a lot, and benefit from faster machines; InDesign is not a lightweight 
> application, i found the CC version slowish with moderately complex documents 
> (2 pages, but hundreds of elements) on my quad-i7 laptop with 16GB RAM; the 
> i5 vs i7 probably makes less difference than the amount of RAM and the speed 
> of your drives; i understand newer iMacs use "desktop" versions of i5 & i7 
> CPUs, which differ less in their performance than the "mobile" versions of 
> the same; a large display is also helpful, as InDesign is very palette-happy
> 
> 
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