On 27 Apr 2014, at 04:28, "Ken Waller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Nice looking craftsmanship.
> 
> From the video you posted recently, I would have thought weight would 
> especially be a factor in cyclocross racing making aluminum or carbon fibre 
> frames an attractive choice (at least for aluminum costwise). I have an 
> aluminum Cannonadale mountain bike that's over 25 years old and shows no 
> signs of usage/age induced issues.

Yes, you're probably right - I'm no expert, and I have no intention of racing.

B
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W" <[email protected]>
> Subject: OT: Concorde
> 
> 
>> Some of you may remember me mentioning a couple of weeks ago after my
>> velocipedal adventures in the woodland that I had bought a frameset so I can
>> build up an off-road bike, while learning something about bike maintenance.
>> 
>> The frameset arrived today. I bought it as 'new old stock' from a chap in
>> the Netherlands who seems to deal in bike bits. It's a purpose-built
>> cyclocross frameset from the late 80s / early 90s, branded Concorde Toscana.
>> 
>> Here it is in my back yard:
>> 
>> <http://www.web-options.com/Concorde/>
>> 
>> I'd never heard of Concorde, but my reading shows that they were a Dutch
>> concern which rebranded bikes made in Italy by Ciocc, so their model names
>> were always Italian (e.g. Toscana).
>> 
>> They seem to be very well thought of. According to this book:
>> 
>> <http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3Iy0nKSCC-8C&pg=PT19&lpg=PT19&dq=concord
>> e+toscana+cyclocross&source=bl&ots=Rkudeyjnw3&sig=SieJac7M5vznjIfobyO1tU9_1t
>> U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4wRRU9T9OYjLON2dgZAO&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=concorde%20
>> toscana%20cyclocross&f=false>
>> 
>> the brand is "much idolised". Since buying the frameset I've seen that there
>> is a thriving little fan-base on the internet.
>> 
>> Concorde ran a successful TdF team which was eventually disbanded, allegedly
>> for reasons not entirely unchemical, and they had a cyclocross rider who
>> became world champion. So they have a pedigree.
>> 
>> <http://www.cycloretro.com/pdm-cycling-team>
>> 
>> Whether or not mine was made by Ciocc, I don't know. It's Columbus Thron
>> tubing; Thron appears to be sorta middle-of-the-road (or perhaps
>> middle-of-the-muddy-field) but still better than yer average chromoly,
>> oversize tubing from the era. It feels heavier than my Roberts, which is to
>> be expected since my Roberts is a lightweight tourer made from 853 tubing -
>> not a slugger designed for mud-wrestling, but it's not actually heavy, if
>> you see what I mean.
>> 
>> The seat-tube, top-tube and chainstays are exactly the same length as my
>> Roberts. The head tube is a little shorter than the Roberts, and the angles
>> are not quite as relaxed - they seem to be about 1 degree more upright. I
>> can expect a slightly twitchier ride with a more aggressive position, so I
>> wouldn't expect to use it for long tours - but that's not what it's for. I
>> think it should be fine for muddy days in the great unpaved.
>> 
>> It's never been built up, so I'll be taking it in to the workshop to get the
>> necessary bits faced, reamed and Waxoyled, and to get my parts list priced
>> up and ordered. Then hopefully I can get the build underway. Jolly exciting.
>> 
>> Thanks for your patience!
>> 
>> B
> 
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