On 27 Apr 2014, at 04:28, "Ken Waller" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nice looking craftsmanship. > > From the video you posted recently, I would have thought weight would > especially be a factor in cyclocross racing making aluminum or carbon fibre > frames an attractive choice (at least for aluminum costwise). I have an > aluminum Cannonadale mountain bike that's over 25 years old and shows no > signs of usage/age induced issues.
Yes, you're probably right - I'm no expert, and I have no intention of racing. B > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W" <[email protected]> > Subject: OT: Concorde > > >> Some of you may remember me mentioning a couple of weeks ago after my >> velocipedal adventures in the woodland that I had bought a frameset so I can >> build up an off-road bike, while learning something about bike maintenance. >> >> The frameset arrived today. I bought it as 'new old stock' from a chap in >> the Netherlands who seems to deal in bike bits. It's a purpose-built >> cyclocross frameset from the late 80s / early 90s, branded Concorde Toscana. >> >> Here it is in my back yard: >> >> <http://www.web-options.com/Concorde/> >> >> I'd never heard of Concorde, but my reading shows that they were a Dutch >> concern which rebranded bikes made in Italy by Ciocc, so their model names >> were always Italian (e.g. Toscana). >> >> They seem to be very well thought of. According to this book: >> >> <http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3Iy0nKSCC-8C&pg=PT19&lpg=PT19&dq=concord >> e+toscana+cyclocross&source=bl&ots=Rkudeyjnw3&sig=SieJac7M5vznjIfobyO1tU9_1t >> U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4wRRU9T9OYjLON2dgZAO&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=concorde%20 >> toscana%20cyclocross&f=false> >> >> the brand is "much idolised". Since buying the frameset I've seen that there >> is a thriving little fan-base on the internet. >> >> Concorde ran a successful TdF team which was eventually disbanded, allegedly >> for reasons not entirely unchemical, and they had a cyclocross rider who >> became world champion. So they have a pedigree. >> >> <http://www.cycloretro.com/pdm-cycling-team> >> >> Whether or not mine was made by Ciocc, I don't know. It's Columbus Thron >> tubing; Thron appears to be sorta middle-of-the-road (or perhaps >> middle-of-the-muddy-field) but still better than yer average chromoly, >> oversize tubing from the era. It feels heavier than my Roberts, which is to >> be expected since my Roberts is a lightweight tourer made from 853 tubing - >> not a slugger designed for mud-wrestling, but it's not actually heavy, if >> you see what I mean. >> >> The seat-tube, top-tube and chainstays are exactly the same length as my >> Roberts. The head tube is a little shorter than the Roberts, and the angles >> are not quite as relaxed - they seem to be about 1 degree more upright. I >> can expect a slightly twitchier ride with a more aggressive position, so I >> wouldn't expect to use it for long tours - but that's not what it's for. I >> think it should be fine for muddy days in the great unpaved. >> >> It's never been built up, so I'll be taking it in to the workshop to get the >> necessary bits faced, reamed and Waxoyled, and to get my parts list priced >> up and ordered. Then hopefully I can get the build underway. Jolly exciting. >> >> Thanks for your patience! >> >> B > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

