Your ignorance is apparent. As always.
On Apr 27, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote: > Far as I'm concerned, Paul, Chrysler was always a failure. Even worse crap > than GM. I'm glad the Italians control them now. > > And Audi is a brand-engineered VW. > > But please, let's not divert from the entertaining Leica bashing. :-) > it's somewhat closer to the supposed topic of this forum. > > Godfrey > > >> On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Oh my! You do invent your own reality, don’t your? I was there when Daimler >> and Chrysler “merged," working on the Chrysler ad biz, so I’ll educate you. >> Chrysler never owend" Daimler. Eaton and the rest of Chrysler management >> sold out to Daimler for a huge amount of cash. Daimler was calling all the >> shots. Hell, they sent Dieter Zetsche, who is now Daimler CEO, here to run >> the Chrylser group. (Zetsche was a nice guy. We had a good time at Daytona >> when Dodge premiered in NASCAR, but his loyalty was definitely to the >> motherland.) At the time, Mercedes was not doing well, but Chrysler had 9 >> billion dollars in the bank. Daimler emptied Chrysler’s piggy bank in a >> matter of years, then left town, leaving a broke and decimated Chrylser >> behind. Cerebus dragged the carcass around for a few years, then Marchione >> came to town and saved Chrysler. Unlike Daimler, Marchione really means it. >> He wants Chrylser to succeed. And they are. >> >> I worked on the Mercede-Benz ad biz as well at McCaffrey & McCall in the >> 1980s. (My commercial, “Interview” iis still considered the best Mercedes >> spot of all time and it won the Gold Clio for best automotive spot of 1990.) >> Mercedes was on a roll when I wrote that commercial, but withing months >> Lexus and Infiniti came on the scene, and Daimler panicked. They told me >> they could no longer be “Emgineered Like No Other Car In the World.” It was >> too arrogant. And they took a lot of content out of the cars so they could >> match the prices of the Japanese cars. I bailed and went to Detroit, and >> Mercedes quality declined. But the Germans are smart and they have a huge >> pool of engineering talent to draw on. Mercedes has made gains in recent >> years, but they never quite recovred. In many ways, they still trail BMW and >> Audi. And of course it’s heresy in the PC world, but Cadillac is producing >> better products than Mercedes for some segments — the ATS vs. the C-Class >> and the CTS vs. the E-class. Mercedes has a future, but they’re not the >> world leader they were in the 1980s. >> >> Here’s “Interview,” if you’d like to see it: >> http://stenquist.org/Paul/MercedesEngineer.htm >>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Plenty of them around here. But their quality did suffer a bit through the >>> years of Chrysler ownership. They were sensible to get rid of Chrysler, >>> even at a loss. >>> >>> G >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not many ten year old Mercs though. Intimately familiar with that company. >>>> Unfortunately. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
