On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Jack Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

> So interesting, John. Thanks. 
> I've parked much of the information to be read later.
> As an aside; claimed basis for the expression,"whole nine yards." Explained 
> to me some years ago: Second WW fighter plane machine guns were supplied with 
> bullet bandoliers of nine yards in length. If a gunner emptied the bandoliers 
> of bullets, it was said: "he gave them the whole nine yards." 
> I wonder where the expression "really" comes from. <G>
> 
> Jack

Wikipedia says: 
> Its origin is unknown and has been described as "the most prominent 
> etymological riddle of our time.”
The WWII explanation is dismissed as not consistent with a first published 
usage in 1907.

First published usage was with reference to a baseball game. My theory: A yard 
has three feet. An inning has three outs. A full nine yards = a full nine 
innings of play.

stan

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John" <[email protected]>
> To: "PDML" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 2:00:55 PM
> Subject: Re: road trip pics
> 
> Either "take with a grain of salt" or try to find a low sodium
> substitute 8-D
> 
> They're not "telescoping" sections per se, but they can be raised,
> lowered, removed & replaced.
> 
> Looking again at Christine's image of the "Friendship" in Salem, MA it
> does look like the Mizzen Topmast has been lowered. There's a stub of
> the lower mast that protrudes above the crosstrees (that little platform
> in the middle of the masts). The lower part of the mast is that vertical
> black stripe.
> 
> The three masts are the Foremast (in the front), Mainmast (in the
> middle) & the Mizzen (Mizzenmast). Usually on a full rigged ship the
> Mainmast is the tallest, the Foremast is the second tallest, and the
> Mizzen is the third tallest. The sections of a mast (from the deck up)
> are the Lower (or "Mast"), Topmast, Topgallant mast, Royal mast.
> 
> In Paul's photo the Topgallant masts are fitted on all three masts. In
> Christine's photo, only the Topmasts appear to be fitted & the Mizzen
> Topmast appears to be in a stowed position.
> 
> Typically, sailing ships would carry spare sections of masts & spars in
> case part of a mast was carried away in a storm. In an emergency, one of
> the spars could be substituted for a portion of a mast. Technically, all
> masts, booms, yards or gaffs are spars; their names tell as much about
> how they are rigged as about their size & shape. The tapering spars that
> hold the tops of the square sails are called "yards".
> 
> One good source for nautical terms & how they're used are the works of
> C.S. Forrester, particularly the Horatio Hornblower series. Another good
> source (although not quite so much fun) is Wikipedia:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_rigged_ship
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigging
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yard_%28sailing%29
> 
> Everything I know about the subject came from one of those two sources.
> 
> PS: http://www.ageofsail.net/aostermi.asp
> 
> PPS: A full rigged ship with three full masts (Mast, Topmast &
> Topgallant Mast) would nominally have had 9 yards (3 x 3) to hold up
> it's sails, and has been suggested as the source of the expression "the
> whole nine yards".
> 


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