On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you go to B&H photo and do a search on Pentax K then sort the result by 
> price, after passing over the two top items which are long lenses, you can 
> get a pretty good idea of the actual prices of their camera bodies, and their 
> place in the lineup.
> 
> Body only prices
> 
> K-3 variants hovering at about $1200.
> 
> The K5IIs still in the line at about $1000, (currently on sale for about $650.

Based on past product cycles, I strongly doubt that the K-5iis is still in 
production; I think we are seeing the sell-off of inventory.

> 
> The K-S1 at $750.
> 
> The K-50 at $450.
> 
> The K-500 at $400 with 18-55 L lens, not available body only.
> 
> However the K-s1 with that lens is only $50 dollars more so the K500 body 
> estimated retail would be $350.
> 
> I don't know, for the serious photographer, the K-s1 looks a lot like 
> inexpensive* body jewelery.  The K50, heck even the K500, if you don't need 
> weather sealing, is tempting as an inexpensive backup for a K-5IIs or even a 
> K-3.  Though at the sale price, the K5IIs is an even more compelling 
> inexpensive backup for the K-3. The K-S1 not so much.
> 
> What I'm really hoping is this doesn't turn into another K-01.  I doubt that 
> Ricoh will produce another mirrorless K mount based on what must have been 
> disappointing sales world wide.  The K-01 only sold well at discontinuation 
> because the price became so attractive.  Sadly I think that Ricoh is again 
> missing the point.
> 
> 
> *Yes, I meant inexpensive.
> 
> 
> On 8/28/2014 9:20 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>> Thanks for passing that along, Stan.
>> 
>> This camera has the potential to be like that song that you just hate
>> on first listen and a couple of weeks later you can't stop singing it.
>> I think we can see where it is being placed in the line-up with that
>> "mid-level customer" phrase. This tells me that we will still see the
>> excellent 16MP model(s?) for a while at the lower entry levels. so we
>> are at least seeing a MP spread (which is important more to the
>> marketing guys: 16, 20, 24).
>> 
>> This camera is aimed at the younger, probably skewed more to the
>> female, demographic - as are most of the models with the multi-color
>> options. If they wanted to sell a bunch more in the United States,
>> they would make them available in NFL and college team colors.
>> (Seriously. Steeler Nation would eat up a Black & Gold model and I'm
>> sure a lot of other sports fans would do the same.)
>> 
>> This model is going to be $200-250 higher than the lowest entry level
>> model and $200-250 under the K-3. It seems to be using a lot of the
>> technology innovated and implemented for the K-3 like the AA filter
>> simulator. I am curious if it also contains all of the K-3 autofocus
>> modes and whether it also is FluCard compatible (albeit with one
>> slot). I just suspect that if the FluCard capabilities are going to be
>> continued to be developed, we are going to have to see it work in more
>> than one model.
>> 
>> I also wonder how long the K-3 will remain the flagship DSLR.
>> 
> 
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