In the mid 1970s I shot some Kodak Royal-X pan 120 at indoor wrestling and 
basketball events. It was nominally rated at ISO 1250. I pushed it to ISO 5000 
and maybe even 10,000 with decent results. The grain at ISO 5000 was similar to 
that of 35mm Tri-X at 1600. One of these days I’ll look for the negs and scan 
one.

Paul
> On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I share in your nostalgia - as I recall in the film days your were really 
> pushing it (often literally!) to get to 3200 and ISO's of 25,600 or more were 
> into the experimental arena.
> 
> I remember a Royal Gold 1000 and thought it was abysmal. In later years there 
> was a very good ISO 1600 Fuji Press C41 color.  I thought looked about as 
> good as many ISO 400's of the time. Then there was TMax P3200 which tended to 
> be a little grainy....
> 
> But ISO 25,600 was beyond the pale...
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 10/21/2014 12:47 PM, Morris Galloway wrote:
>> Galloway, delurking for a moment, can remember  back in time, back, back, 
>> when Kodak Royal X Pan was the only game in town for  FAST film, listed as 
>> 1,600 ASA, and it was pushable --
>> sort of pushable.  And the results obtained were not as Good as 25,600.  
>> During College, went out on assignment for a print magazine to a den on 
>> iniquity, a GO-G0 bar (!) that was
>> all soft green spot lights and drunk college kids, and shot a roll. I got 
>> some shots.  The patrons and maidens were visible and clear. But there was 
>> so much grain the advertiser thought it was taken inside a cereal factory.  
>> Publisher had to sue for the quarter-page.  Alas!
>>   Wish I had a K-5, or 5ii,  or K-3 then!   We've come a Long Way Baby!  
>> Sure I use 25,600 , and I  turn and walk back inside with my possum pic, or 
>> whatever, all the while considering that I could Never have captured 
>> anything in those dark corners even with the best Germany and Kodak had to 
>> offer at that time.
>> 
>> Relurking now,   G
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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