to reduce the slide:

remember that rudeness turns people off (not aimed at anyone at all -
a general observation from many forums over many years)
try to help when people ask for it
people participate because the list is informative, entertaining and
it provides social interaction - any others?
no one likes to be ignored - everyone needs to be acknowledged once in a while

to increase the profile: put it out there on the social media sites.
Not changing the format of the list but adding a pdml information page
with the stuff necessary to make sure it pops in searches.  Add
keywords like "photography" "Pentax" and various related subjects.

if this post makes it through then I'll try to add more thoughts as
they occur to me.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I posted this looking for ideas to reverse the slide rather than to
>> provide reasons or excuses for it. Who has such an idea?
>
>
> If we require all members to post 3 times a  a day we could get to the 2010
> monthly total !  ;+)!
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Womer" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Where is everyone?
>
>
>> I found the list on the Pentax web site when Pentax owned it. Then in
>> 1994 we went on sabbatical, and I could only get it through expensive
>> trans-Atlantic dial-up, so I unsubscribed. I looked for it a few times
>> after we got back, but couldn't find it. Then about 11 years ago I ran
>> into Mark! and Lisa at some airport where Lisa and I had been
>> attending the same meeting, and he gave me the new details.
>>
>> I posted this looking for ideas to reverse the slide rather than to
>> provide reasons or excuses for it. Who has such an idea?
>>
>> Rick
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Only us oldsters know what Shel-like means.:-)
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:51 AM, David J Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm still here although my participation has fallen, mostly due to
>>>> lack of photo drives to generate anything thing to show.
>>>> I like hanging out here, mainly because no one ridicules me for post
>>>> process. I was hanging out at PF for a while in 2007-2008, but one of
>>>> their main contributors beat me up pretty bad for saying things like i
>>>> usually do some post processing. If i was a 'real' photographer i
>>>> would get it right in the camera. Some came to my defense but not a
>>>> lot. Seems trivial but the comments from him were almost Shel like, so
>>>> i pretty much gave that place up.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Jack Davis <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The general relationship with the digital age has become more routine.
>>>>> Interest peaks have flattened.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brian Walters" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:34:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Where is everyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there are several reasons for the fall off in postings.  The
>>>>> web-based DP Review & Pentax Forums are easy to find for people
>>>>> looking for info on their new cameras and for help with problems.
>>>>> Also PDML has morphed into (mainly) a photo sharing list - nothing
>>>>> wrong with that but there seems to be few gear-related postings except
>>>>> when a new model is rumoured or released.  Perhaps we're all so
>>>>> familiar with our cameras that we don't need any assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how to increase participation. I tried a number of
>>>>> Pentax-related searches on Google - PDML, if it came up at all, was
>>>>> well down the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Brian Walters
>>>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Rick Womer <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lately I've noticed that the volume of PDML posts is way down. So,
>>>>>> being off this week and having some spare time, I did some research in
>>>>>> the archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In January 2015, there were 1234 posts from 52 members.
>>>>>> In January 2014, there were 2587 posts from 74 members.
>>>>>> In January 2013, there were 2667 posts from 70 members.
>>>>>> In January 2012, there were 3418 posts from 88 members.
>>>>>> In January 2011, there were 5091 posts from 109 members.
>>>>>> In January 2010, there were 4764 posts from 110 members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in five years, active members are down by half, and the number of
>>>>>> posts is down by 3/4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is more competition than there used to be (especially, recently,
>>>>>> from Facebook), but IMHO the PDML remains the best (of many) photo
>>>>>> discussion venues I've used over the decades. It would be good to turn
>>>>>> around this decline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do we draw in new members? How do we keep both new and existing
>>>>>> members?
>
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