It's only ever going to happen in a Bruce Willis film. They'll all press the enormous red emergency stop button, and get out of the cars.
B > On 31 Aug 2015, at 18:55, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: > > With a targeted attack that's quite possible. It would probably take a > government, but then, there are governments that are quite adept at cyber > warfare. What would you think would happen if people got into their cars, > the doors lock and won't open and the car is immobilized? Call emergency > services and the responders, whether they be Police, Fire or maybe a private > contractor like a lock smith, has exactly the same problem. Better yet at a > set time, lets assume that only only one model of car is hacked. So at rush > hour, collision avoidance is turned off and every model of that car > accelerates at it's maximum rate until it hits something. You could have > that many casualties world wide in one afternoon. > > Before you say it can't happen, you should read this. > > http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/ > > Remember Stuxnet? A computer virus that attacked industrial controllers. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet > > > > Now apparently right now, car manufactures are just becoming aware that they > need better security on the systems in their products and they're being > patched. But it only takes one slip up. > > Remember suxnet > > If I was going to do something like that, that's what I'd aim for. > > The next question to ask is what price freedom, what price slavery. > >> On 8/31/2015 12:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> Do you think the hackers will be killing 1.24 million people per year? >> >> http://www.who.int/gho/road_safety/mortality/en/ >> >> B >> >>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 15:10, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On the whole, that's an exceedingly bad idea. Whose time is coming. I'm >>> likely won't be around to see it. With computer controlled anti lock >>> breaks, and computer controlled cruse control, and most every modern car >>> having it's owned assigned IP address it's only a matter of time before we >>> have the first recorded homicide by hacking a cars cpu(s) and network. The >>> more control the computer in the car has the more control a hacker can >>> achieve. That's assuming there aren't gross errors in the programming to >>> begin with. >>> >>> On 8/31/2015 2:07 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>>> P.s. I think that in 10-15 years time we'll be seeing moves to make it >>>> illegal for humans to drive cars. >>>> >>>> When self-driving cars start appearing on our roads they will be so much >>>> safer than human-driven ones that it will be difficult to argue against. >>>> For example, why would a boy-racer ever give way to a self-driving >>>> ('automobile'!) car, knowing that it will always give way? >>>> >>>> I don't think the few petrol-heads who'll be left will be too bothered >>>> about it either. Half the fun of current cars comes from the sound of the >>>> engine, and the direct relationship between the controls and movement of >>>> the car. As drive-by-wire and silent, or artificial sound, cars come along >>>> that direct connection is lost along with the feelings of control and >>>> exercise of skill that makes driving so much fun. >>>> >>>> >From the point of view of cities this will be a good thing. We'll be able >>>> >to get rid of most of the street signs and similar car-related street >>>> >furniture that is so disfiguring of beautiful architecture, and it will >>>> >reduce congestion. >>>> >>>> If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen >>>> nothin' yet. >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 05:48, Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times >>>>> I got to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles >>>>> massively outweighed the pleasures. Utility driving - which is probably >>>>> 99% of car use for most people - is just a huge pain in the arse. >>>>> >>>>> And as for the countryside, it is of course mass car use that is >>>>> destroying it - the pleasure of driving in it has a high cost. I get far >>>>> more enjoyment from cycling and walking in the countryside than I ever >>>>> did from driving in it >>>>> >>>>> B >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 01:00, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be >>>>>> almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - >>>>>> can't put a dollar value on that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kenneth Waller >>>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W-PDML" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob W wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a >>>>>>>>> par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned. >>>>>>>> [...]t the >>>>>>>> practical truth is it is quicker to go from A to B on most local trips >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> cycling rather than car (although I need very little persuasion to >>>>>>>> take the >>>>>>>> cycle!). You can spend as long finding a parking place as it did to >>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>> there - pointless. [...] >>>>>>> People can get a very warped perception of the so-called benefits of >>>>>>> using a car. I've often been with people who've chosen to drive >>>>>>> somewhere when I've decided to walk or ride, starting from the same >>>>>>> place, and I've arrived there long before they have. This can sometimes >>>>>>> be over distances of several miles, but because the other people have >>>>>>> lost the very idea of leaving the car behind they have also lost the >>>>>>> idea of how much it has crippled them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My normal commute to work, for example, is 8 miles each way, and >>>>>>> cycling it is quicker than all other forms of transport. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> B >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve >>> immortality through not dying. >>> -- Woody Allen >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
