So sad, Paul, & John too. Hang in there. God bless.
Alan C
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From: John Coyle
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:26 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion
You got that right Darren. Paul, my thoughts are with you too: I face a
similar situation in that my daughter is back in hospital with rampant
cancer spreading throughout her body.
John in Brisbane
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From: PDML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darren Addy
Sent: Friday, 23 October 2015 14:11
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion
There are times when subjects like politics (and photography) suddenly seem
don't seem very important (at all) and this is one of those times. With you
and yours in spirit, Paul ... though that feels so inadequate at this time.
Darren
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
Words fail me Paul. I am so sorry to hear this.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
----- Original Message ----- From: "paul stenquist"
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Subject: Re: OT - Elections and Politics and Guns and Religion
Love you too, Frank. The post wasn’t directed at you. It wasn’t
directed at anyone, just letting off steam. Started my wife on hospice
care today.
It’s been a rough week, and I’m angry with the world.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:28 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
I love you, Paul! I really do. :-)
I'm not going to respond to the substantive parts of either of your
posts. I will say that your first post hardly inflamed me or even
got me warmed up. I did smile as I read it...
I'm hardly a "liberal" so whatever conclusions you've reached as to
what liberalism is, amount to little more than a passing interest to me.
Cheers,
frank
On October 22, 2015 10:02:00 AM EDT, paul stenquist
<[email protected]> wrote:
No need to gush, Stanley. Frank’s comment is a clever turn of words
but meaningless, in that I was not debating anything or offering
any kind of argument. I merely made an observation, based on my
experience, as others have done in this thread. Of course, my words
inflamed all the lefties, but that was expected. No straw men here,
other than Frank’s diversion.
On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Stanley Halpin
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:57 PM, frank theriault
<[email protected]> wrote:
"And U.S. Liberalism dictates that government should be involved
in every aspect of one's life and dictate proper behavior based
on a
code
of political correctness. U.S. Liberals worship at the church of
secular humanism and can't imagine why that might not work for
everyone.”
xxxxxxxxx
There are so many straw men in there, the Wizard of Oz is
wondering which one to give the brain to…
xxxxxxxxx
Mark!
LOL
cheers,
frank
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Paul Stenquist
<[email protected]> wrote:
Paul via phone
On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Eric Weir <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Brian Walters
<[email protected]> wrote:
Interesting how political terminology can vary between countries.
Here 'Liberal' means the absolute opposite to the definition
of
the term
in North America. Our 'Liberals' are the conservatives; Labor
(no
'u")
are the (somewhat) leftish group.
What are called liberals everywhere else assumes that a minimum
of
government is sufficient to insure liberty.
And U.S. Liberalism dictates that government should be involved
in
every aspect of one's life and dictate proper behavior based on a
code of political correctness. U.S. Liberals worship at the church
of secular humanism and can't imagine why that might not work for
everyone.
What are called liberals in the US assumes that sometimes
something more is required, that simply “leaving people alone”
doesn’t necessarily guarantee their freedom. Totally private
healthcare vs. the assumption that no one—children of poor parents,
e.g.—should be denied healthcare because they can’t pay for it. At
least as good a sense of “liberal” as the other use is an imperfect
sense.
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Decatur, GA USA
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