I agree with your analysis (and of course, your correction). However,
I will be very surprised if the Full Frame comes in at under $2500 (at
least initially). We will soon see!

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Stanley Halpin
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> First, a minor quibble: 645D is 1st generation, 645Z is 2nd generation; you 
> have it the other way around.
> But I think the main thrust of your discussion is mostly on target.
>
> I looked at the specs for the new Nikon $6500 camera, did a quick comparison 
> with the 645Z. About the same size, about the same price. The Nikon has a 
> larger more diverse suite of lenses available, has much more sophisticated AF 
> system and can shot sports-photographer-class frames per second. I suspect 
> the 645Z produces better images in the studio or in landscape mode.
>
> Assume for the moment that the K-1 FF will be somewhat like the Nikon 
> offering: rapid accurate AF, high frame rate, good image quality.
>
> I think what we are left with is not the linear progression that your price 
> progression implies. Rather, I think we have two camera lines. K-3ii -> K-1, 
> and 645D -> 645Z. Or arguably three distinct lines. The APS-C, FF, and 645 
> have such different characteristics that a knowledgable consumer will be 
> making choices based on the fit of the tool for his job, not just on price.
>
> And if this analysis has any merit, then it wouldn’t surprise me to see the 
> K-1 at a price point about $500 less than the 645D.
>
> stan
>
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty
>> pocketbook says I'm not quite tempted yet). It seems that there are
>> more 645D on the market recently, and I it occurs to me that some are
>> probably upgrading to the 645z and some are possibly selling in
>> anticipation of getting the Pentax FF (or moving to some other FF
>> system). We can't discount the fact that as time moves on the 645D
>> becomes older and older technology, which also accounts for some of
>> the price slide.
>>
>> I don't think we are terribly far away from seeing used 645D bodies
>> selling for under $2K. It is possible that the FF Pentax's actual
>> introduction may even exert a little upward pressure back on the 645D,
>> depending upon it's price and specs: One might be deciding between the
>> latest Pentax technology K-1 at 36 or 42 MP for $2895 vs the 40MP 645D
>> for a chunk less.
>>
>> If this happens, the price progression would be:
>> Flagship APS-C: K-3 II
>> 2nd Generation 645D
>> Full frame: K-1
>> Medium format 1st generation: 645z
>>
>> Thoughts?
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