Hi Ed,

Several other people have responded already. Let me just add what I think about this lens. In the past 3-5 years, it is the most used lens for me.
It is usually the "default" one attached to the camera while in the bag
that frequently travels with me (unless I prepared for some special situation and switch to a different lens).
I've written about it on PDML a few times before.
(E.g. here: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/352571.html )

It is not the best quality lens in my bag, but it is very good, and universal enough to cover many of my needs and situations.
Some 8 years ago, I used to use 18-250 as a universal "travel" lens,
and it was reasonable, but 17-70 outperforms, so it replaced 18-250.
As Mark said, 17-70/4 has fast, quiet and accurate focusing.

Compared to a few other lenses (16-50, 16-45, 18-55), - this one gives me the reach to 70. It is actually performing better below 50 mm, and is not the sharpest one at the longer end. So, if I need 50-70 at the best quality, I switch to 50-135/2.8. But it is still reasonably good. Compared to 16 mm on the wide end, I don't think there is a huge difference. On APS-C 17-70 gives you the angle of view of 79-23 degrees, while, e.g. 16-45 is 83-35. So, what you loos on the wide lens is not that much. 17-70 has relatively small, 11"/28cm, minimum focus distance, which is very convenient in some tight spaces.

(Note, there is also Sigma 17-70/2.8-4 out there, but I don't know much about it.)
There is a recent 16-85 lens.
You can read this review about it (and catch some comparison to other lenses in the range):
http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-f35-56/general-image-qu
ality.html


As I said, when I go for a longer end, I switch to 50-135/2.8 which is optically much better performer, all the way throughout the focal range.
That one is also on your list, - and I highly recommend it.
Around Black Friday/Cyber Monday, it sells at B&H and Adorama for
some amount between $800 and $900, at least in the past couple years or so. (And that is typically the best time to buy all lenses).

I am also using 60-250, and, while it is a bit slower than 50-135, it gives the longer reach. It's quality is very close to that of 50-135, or maybe even on par with it. IIRC, 60-250 comes down in price to just below $1000 ($900s).

In low light, or when I want some special quality, I switch to primes
(FA's 35/1.8, 50/1.4 [rather seldom these days], 77/1.8).
35/1.8 and especially 77/1.8 are in the league above the rest of the lens, even 50/1.4. (Actually, I think 50-135/2.8 is almost comparable to FA 50/1.4 image-quality-wise (except for the speed)), if not even better.
35/1.8 is probably my 2nd or 3rd (after 50-135?) most used lens.
FA 35/2 is much cheaper and I'd put it at the same level as FA 50/1.4, but again, 35/1.8 in a different league.

I had the SDM motor replaced under warranty on my 17-70 in the very first year, (some 5-6? years ago) and have not had any problem since.

I tried 16-50 in the 2nd year of its existence, and I was underwhelmed by its performance, at least in the low light, while wide open.
I thought 17-70 was doing somewhat better wide-open.
But in the early years, I believe, some IQ variations were reported (in addition to the SDM problems). Presumably, the optical issues have been fixed later, but I don't know.

I tried 12-24 for a very short time, and it was good, but I wasn't overly impressed with it, and didn't have much need at the time, so I didn't keep it.


I hope this helps.

Igor


Ed Keeney Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:29:00 -0800 wrote:

Hello all!

I have the following in my bag at the moment...


   Pentax K-50
     SMC-DAL 18-55 3.5/5.6
     SMC-DA 50-200 4-5.6
     SMC-FA 50 1.4

I find that the image quality of the 50 is outstanding when comparing
to the other 2 lenses (primarily the 18-55).  Not that the kit lens is
bad, but the 50 is very sharp.  I attribute this to the fixed aperture
and overall better quality glass.

I'm thinking of saving for a new higher quality lens (aren't we all?).
At this point, I'm not sure which direction to take.  Do I look at the
current lineup (below) or try to find a second hand older lens.

The current fixed aperture zoom lens lineup from the Ricoh site (US prices)...

  PENTAX DA 12-24mm f/4 ED AL [IF]     $ 699.95

  PENTAX smc DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL [IF] SDM     $1049.95

  PENTAX smc DA 17-70mm f/4 AL [IF] SDM     $ 499.95

  PENTAX HD D FA 24-70mm f/2.8ED SDM WR     $1299.95

  PENTAX smc DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 ED [IF] SDM     $1049.95

  PENTAX smc DA* 60-250mm F4 [IF] SDM     $1299.95


To start, I am looking at the DA 17-70 to roughly cover the same range
as the 18-55 and luckily it's the lowest priced one.  B&H has it
listed for $350, Amazon $300.

Online reviews are hit and miss on this (SDM focusing issues).

I'd like to get PDML thoughts, so fire away!

Thanks!
Ed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edkeeney/

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