Ken,

My views differ.

What I want when I post a pic is comments; kudos are nice, but constructive 
appreciation or criticism is much better.

Sometimes I'm not sure whether a photo conveys to others what I intended, or I 
may have tried something different or been in a challenging situation. In those 
cases, providing some background helps others provide useful comments.

Rick

On Feb 6, 2016, at 2:15 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

> My 2 cents... not directed at anyone in particular, but my observations to 
> photos in general.
> 
> Photographic images should not require any background verbiage to the viewer 
> for it to be appreciated. Images should stand by themselves on the merits of 
> the subject matter they convey & the technical aspects of the photo - 
> lighting, exposure, composition and focus.
> 
> While background info about the image may be interesting, for the most part, 
> that info may indicate a failure/inability on the part of the photographer to 
> properly capture the idea he/she was trying to relay.
> 
> Furthermore, responding to criticism with background info, justifying why the 
> photographer did what was done, is a further indication of the 'failure' of 
> the image.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann sanfedele" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Perched Too
> 
> 
>> Just to be clear about my comment earlier - Larry-  all of us, I think, show 
>> each other photos because we want the rest to "get" what
>> we were doing and do want to communicate - so it DOES matter whether or not 
>> the image communicates what we intendedit to say
>> to the rest.
>> 
>> I was just making the point that none of us knew the guy on the rock was 
>> there for a long time and Dan said that element was
>> what made him take the photo.... whether or not the imageis nicely 
>> proportioned, good bokeh or whatever or just plain liked
>> or not by others , until we were told by Dan what attracted him we couldn't 
>> tell from that photo.... we didn't have backstory.
>> 
>> We dont' always show each other photos because they work for us -- sometimes 
>> its because we are uncertain, or it doesnt or
>> we need suggestions to help make it work... but don't say it doesn't matter 
>> to the photographer whether it works for the viewers-
>> at least one or more... Not everything speaks to everyone, but there really 
>> is no point sharing a photo if you don't care at all
>> what others think of it...
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/5/2016 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> It does not matter whether it works for us.  The question is, does it work
>>>> for you?
>>> Yes;  otherwise I would not have taken it, processed it and shown it
>>> here and elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> I thought this image could stand on its own, but then again, sometimes
>>> I think I am a photographer.  What the hell do I know?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
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