Ron, I've got to reply to this. Bear in mind that for quite awhile I owned and heavily used 2 PZ-1p's and like them very much. I now own 2 MZ-S's.
See my comments below Bruce Friday, May 03, 2002, 9:08:16 AM, you wrote: RB> I'm in the same boat ;-). Although I haven't seen the MZ-S yet, I RB> immediately RB> was ready to spring for one, seeing that it's smaller and lighter than my RB> PZ-1. RB> I applaud the new design, smaller and lighter body. But here's a cause for RB> a RB> pause ;-). RB> o 1/180 flash sync speed - I can't understand how Pentax could go backward RB> on this! The PZ-1 has a nice 1/250! 1/180 is in nowhere land, like the RB> 1/100 RB> sync that came down all the way from the ME! On the one hand you applaud the smaller size and weight and then critizice it for making minor concessions to achieve it. The shutter determines both top speed and top flash synch. The shutter in the PZ-1p is bigger, heavier, louder and more bouncy. What Pentax has done is used a refined, quieter, better damped shutter at the expense of about 1/2 stop. I have used both and there is really not much difference. RB> o 0.75X viewfinder magnification. I don't understand why less magnification RB> is better. I understand the high eyepoint, etc. When I look through my MX RB> (0.98X magnification) with my 24mm lens, I can really see the perspective RB> effect (near-far, etc.). On my old SuperProgram with 0.82X, it was more RB> difficult but still useable. Same goes for 0.8X of the PZ-1 which I think RB> is at the limit, but 0.86X would be nicer. Viewfinders are always a land of compromise. I would love to hear from someone with knowledge about what decisions went in to the design of this particular finder. Moving from the PZ-1p to the MZ-S has not caused me to long for the PZ-1p. In fact, I really didn't notice any negative differences. RB> o Still no flash compensation! There you are wrong my friend. Pentax changed the nature of flash compensation. They now work like Nikon, Canon and Minolta - that is - the flash compensation is built into the flash rather than the body. The new AF360FGZ has full flash compensation and high speed synch (up to 1/6000) to boot. Most uses of fill flash in bright light are for portraits - shadow filling and eye catchlights. The MZ-S is an improvement over the PZ-1p. RB> o Top speed of 1/6000 - again in nowhere land. However, this one RB> is just knit picking since I rarely used 1/8000 on my PZ-1. This goes hand in hand with the above comments on shutters. RB> If the MZ-S price tag was $500, perhaps I could live these RB> RB>shortcomings. But at $900, well it's certainly a cause for a pause. RB>So I've been thinking that perhaps I should wait for an "MZ-Sn" and RB>get a lightweight ZX-L (with all its short comings) in the meantime. I don't know where you got $900 from. I paid $800 for both of mine. I guess the funny thing about your post, is you failed to note any of the positives of the MZ-S over the PZ-1p. If nothing about the new camera is important, you would do best to stay with what you have. Sorry for sounding a little ornery, but your post came across as very uninformed and you only compared a few features. Very biased, in my opinion. What I can tell you is that the style and philosophy of these two cameras are different. In most of the discussions those who like the Canon Robo style of interface (spinning dials - all control in the body) prefer the PZ-1p. Those who like the more retro interface (LX, SuperProgram, ZX-5n) prefer the MZ-S. You really should try using one to see what you really think. RB> Just one of my 35 opinions, RB> Ron B[ee] RB> -----Original Message----- RB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wayne willis (aka RB> pinkys right hand man) RB> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:30 AM RB> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> Subject: how good RB> mz-s is it any good? RB> i have a pz-1 and am looking to up grade RB> is it worth it RB> also i have heard good things about the tokina 100-300mm lend f4 has any one RB> else RB> also is the 24-90mm lens of pentax any good? RB> - RB> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, RB> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to RB> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . RB> - RB> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, RB> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to RB> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

