Mark,

These are very familiar thoughts.
Some 6 years ago, I was evaluating if I wanted to get D700 for low-light dance photography.

At that point I had K-7, which was far inferior in low light.
I even tried to shoot with D700 at one of the Argentine tango events and enjoyed the results. But I decided against adding D700 to my arsenal, err. bag.
These were my thoughts:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2011-December/296381.html

(You may find it rather interesting what Larry was writing about considering D7000, - as quoted at the bottom of that message.)


As for the lenses, - it is obvious that Pentax had been working on the lenses for APS-C. And it is obvious that they were focusing on the "prosumer" segment of the market, where the specialty lenses (such as 200/macro) is not of high priority.
And we know that some long-term lense lines have been abandoned:  85/1.4,
135mm, 28-70mm.

I am mostly set for my needs with K-5 IIs. But some of those lenses are APS-C-specific: 50-135/2.8, 60-250/4, 17-70/4. At the moment, I am not yet considering K-1, but if I were, I'd be thinking what would be replacing those. I still have Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, but I am not sure how it'll be performing with K-1.
I've been underwhelmeed by its performance on APS-C DSLRs.

For that reason, the purchase of K-1 for me would mean buying probably
D FA 24-70mm F2.8 and 70-200/2.8, which is extra $3K. And then, I'd look for something that goes up to 300 or 400 mm, possibly 150-450, which is yet another $2.2K So, we are talking about $5-7K, including the body.
(Luckily, the three primes I am using are all FF.)

Ouch... ;)

Igor



Mark C Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:45:06 -0700 wrote:

Thanks for posting that.

His analysis is accurate and reinforces some of the things I'v e been mulling over recently. My own analysis has been that Pentax continues to lag in camera features and also in lenses. The K1 closes the gap in terms of feature. It still lags in terms of things like AF but leads in some of the sensor shift based features. But in terms of lenses, I'm not sure that problem will ever go away. I'm still using an A* 200 f4 macro for field work - been using this lens (not this specific one - the first one wore out) since 1998. There really are no alternative long macros available to the Pentax user. And that is just one example - there are gaps in the available lenses for Pentax, unless you go back to used / film era lenses. And that just raises the question of how well they will work on a FF sensor.


So I look at the K1 and wonder if it will work well with my existing film era glass. And if not can are replacement lenses even agailable. (In the case of a longer macro - no, they are not.) And if I can find replacement lenses what would it cost to rebuild my system. And do I really want to invest that much into Pentax, given all its limitations. I wonder if I should just take he money that I would spend on the K1 and 24-70 lens and use that as a starter for another brand. The costs analysis in the review was very insightful regarding that possible path.


Fortunately for me, I'm really into film these days and the Mz-S and 6x7 are my go to cameras. May as well burn film while it is still around. So I'm postponing any decisions on the K1 for the time being.


Mark

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