Side note you *can* set a timer where it will turn off after a period
of time. I think it still wakes itself up to do cleanings though. I
set this and it has never turned off, but after reading a bit it seems
the automatic shutoff doesn't work when you use the printer
wirelessly. Oh yeah, it does wireless printing. Kind of nice. I just
leave it on. I would imagine its power draw in standby is pretty low.
Canon mentioned it having a deep sleep mode that it sinks into.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it self cleans maybe once or twice a week. It doesn't seem to
> use hardly any ink for self cleanings. I know for experience with the
> 9500 that if you initiate a purge it goes through a lot more ink than
> a self clean. I've only had on turned on for a week now and I've
> noticed one self clean after a print I made yesterday. Though it might
> have done so when I was sleeping or not at home as well. I'll let you
> know how this thing works out long term. From what I have read from
> other users it doesn't seem to use hardly any ink during self
> cleanings over a period of time. I would definitely recommend just
> leaving it on and letting the printer maintain itself.
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ah, thanks, Zos.
>>
>> So would you say that maintenance is low as long as you just leave it
>> on? My fear with ink jet technology has always been that you need to
>> futz with them more often than is worthwhile if you don't print
>> constantly. I suspect I'd only print a small number every couple of
>> weeks.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> You can get 4 cart packs with an extra black cartridge for $65 USD.
>>>
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=909117&gclid=CjwKEAjwwOvABRC08aedoZ_lnTMSJACs_cbuupbY7p_V98Us5K4ArMYpKfAufPrKl8J8paKBqTF6zBoC23Lw_wcB&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051678762%2C&Q=&A=details
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for that write-up, Zos. Great info.
>>>>
>>>> Can the black ink sets be purchased separately?
>>>>
>>>> Pigment inks are generally considered archival. Are dye inks?  (I
>>>> guess that's Paul's question rephrased.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I ended up stealing one of these for $100. They retail for $400
>>>>> currently. I also snagged 50 sheets of 13x19 canon satin paper in the
>>>>> mix. I've done a few test prints now and I am very impressed. Unlike
>>>>> the Epson and older Canon printers this one uses dye ink and man is it
>>>>> vivid. If you want to print stuff that looks like slide film this is
>>>>> the printer for you. I haven't tried any skin tones yet, so I'll maybe
>>>>> follow up this post when I print a few portraits from it. The review
>>>>> on imaging resource is looking pretty bad really. I think this printer
>>>>> is a lot better than what they present. I don't really know what
>>>>> settings they were using, but when you run your images through their
>>>>> plugin it seems to do a very good job with color using the stock
>>>>> profiles. The black and white I printed on canon paper seemed fairly
>>>>> neutral when I looked at it in direct sunlight. I actually print
>>>>> things for a living and have used large format canons for some time
>>>>> and always highly recommend them. I would do the same for this
>>>>> printer. Just know that ink costs are up on this model but a full set
>>>>> is only $109 for 8 carts. Not bad really. Individuals are $16.99 I
>>>>> think, up from the $13 the older ones were. You can probably get about
>>>>> 30-40 13x19s before you start swapping ink carts and of course your
>>>>> mileage may vary. Obviously B&W prints will kill the three black carts
>>>>> pretty fast. One full size print didn't dent the first cartridge set,
>>>>> but a black and white definitely moved the on screen indicators a bit.
>>>>> I prints up to 13x19 which is pretty decent really. I love 11x17 so
>>>>> this is perfect for a lot of things. Borderless 13x19 looks fantastic
>>>>> though you do give up some image along the sides. You can buy 13x19
>>>>> frames too. It also prints CDs which is interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are considering a printer I would definitely look at this. It
>>>>> has pretty much all the features and quality that the Pixma Pro 1 had
>>>>> and that cost $1000 new. The heads are easily replaceable on this
>>>>> printer as well. I think the epsons are still not user serviceable.
>>>>> One advantage that the smaller epsons have is that they print rolls as
>>>>> well. I think up to 20" wide right? so that gives the ability to print
>>>>> a bit bigger. Still I'm very happy with this and this is a lot nicer
>>>>> than the old 9500 mark 2 I used to use. Much better print quality with
>>>>> much more accurate color. If you are someone that can sell a lot of
>>>>> small prints this is a good printer to have around. I'm really hoping
>>>>> that they move to adding RGB colors like their larger printers have
>>>>> eventually. That would give them a huge color gamut. Still for 8
>>>>> colors this thing does really, really well. Just know that its best to
>>>>> leave them on all the time so that they self clean which doesn't use
>>>>> much ink in the long run. Otherwise you have to use a lot more ink
>>>>> trying to purge and test print.
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