To me these design related issues speak to a much bigger issue than quality/reliability. They speak to a lack of knowledge of car design and the potential customers wants. Much more fundamental than quality/reliability.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo


On 1/28/2017 4:05 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Bill IIRC, your issues were mainly quality/ reliability related.
Dan's issues as he listed them are design related - they were meant
to be the way he observed. Quite a difference IMO.

Fair enough, though both speak to a corporate culture that resists responsiveness to it's customers. Dan is not the first person I've heard of complaining about GM's ergonomics, and I am not the only person I know who is totally disgusted with their QC.



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT: Chevy
Maliboo

I understand your pain. Out of five GM vehicles I have had direct
contact with,either through ownership or family ownership, as well
as one that had GM components, I have had bad experiences with five
of the six. Apparently, my experience (and yours) is not common,
and GM vehicles are God's gift to the auto industry. Or not. I will
never buy another GM vehicle, or any vehicle that uses GM
components. They are turds on wheels.

bill

On 1/28/2017 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I just need to vent a bit.

I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my
experience the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors
stays in business.

Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui:  gas is
expensive, and parking spaces are tight.  This year, however, our
son accompanied us for the first two weeks of the trip, and two
friends will join us here for the last week, so we needed a
larger car with more luggage room.  I therefore asked Avis for an
intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan Altima or
similar."

What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu.  I can only describe
it as spectacularly mediocre.  I can't remember when I have been
less pleased with a rental from Avis.

At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year
old Altima and a 20 year old Optima.  I have owned Buicks in the
past.  I am generally not fussy about cars.

The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style.  In
order to give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a
lot of head room from the rear seat.  Getting in the rear seat in
awkward, and getting out damn uncomfortable.  Really not much
better than trying to exit the rear "seat" of the Mustang.

Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and
tricky.  I don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try.
The instruments are part analog and part digital, and totally
confusing.  The electronics for radio and cell phone are simply
old fashioned.  Even the seat belts are difficult to operate.
The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected from the size
of the car.  I am really wondering how I am going to get four
passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and
her friends to the airport in a couple of weeks.

I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail
out a company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers
want and need.

End of rant.  We now return you to our regular programming.


Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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