I keep a large hunk of rip-stop, about a meter wide by 2.5 meters
long, folded in my kit bag when I shoot on location. I can tape it up
over a window to get lovely diffuse light for portraits. It cost me
under ten bucks.

I thought that if you created a box from white foamcore, cut "windows"
in it and glued (Elmers) rip-stop over them, you can point your desk
lamps at the windows and fill the box with diffuse light. Then shoot
through a front opening.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's a good idea. Several years ago I bought some white nylon and stapled
> it to a couple old 16 x 20 wooden frames - basically a DYI diffuser. I wish
> I had hung onto them - tossed them when purging the house of excess stuff.
>
>
> On 2/28/2017 6:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Mark, here's an alternate diffusion suggestion: white rip-stop nylon
>> fabric from the fabric store. Quite cheap, very white, and fairly heat
>> resistant. It's essentially what soft boxes use.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just doing desktop macro work with a couple of goose neck desk lights
>>> and small pieces of white foam core for reflectors. Incandescent bulbs
>>> are
>>> an option but the heat is a concern. I currently use wax paper to diffuse
>>> the lighting - would need to rethink that approach with hot lights. In
>>> the
>>> past I have used flashes, but need continuous light to take advantage of
>>> pixel shift.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2017 11:29 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree that tungsten bulbs are generally quite good for faithful
>>>> colour, and it's easy to colour correct for them.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, they are hot as hell. :)  I once did a fashion shoot using a
>>>> cheap $40 dual head 500W garage service light that I bounced off
>>>> reflectors inside a retail store, and just about cooked everybody. But
>>>> I loved the results.
>>>>
>>>> And one really nice thing about tungsten is that, like a lot of old
>>>> film gear, nobody wants it and it's cheap. I was recently given a
>>>> Lowel Tota in great shape, with a heat-resistant silver umbrella.
>>>> Almost $200 new at B&H.
>>>>
>>>> Those little common bayonet base tungsten halogen lamps with a 40
>>>> degree beam spread are great if you are lighting up close, like for
>>>> macro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Bruce. I'm not trying for exact color reproduction but just
>>>>> want
>>>>> consistent results and reasonably rich colors. Some of the bulbs I've
>>>>> tried
>>>>> produce muddy colors and some are difficult to adjust / color correct.
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> continue experimenting and will  take a look at the LED panels. I took
>>>>> a
>>>>> look at the LED bulbs sold by B&W and they did not seem to have
>>>>> remarkable
>>>>> CRI ratings but were a lot brighter than what I can find retail.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From what I read it sounds like tungsten bulbs are generally
>>>>> excellent
>>>>> at
>>>>> color reproduction, so there is always that route as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/27/2017 4:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether you need to worry about CRI or not depends on how fussy you
>>>>>> are. If you are shooting products (including fashion) for a living you
>>>>>> would (or should, anyway) be fussy and CRI is critical. Also if you
>>>>>> shoot people and like your skin tones to be well rendered, or natural.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you find that don't really care about CRI then any old light
>>>>>> sources will do and buying random LED bulbs until you get the results
>>>>>> you like will be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if you, like me, really do care about CRI then I suggest you stick
>>>>>> to LED panels and bulbs that are made for photography. Avoid all the
>>>>>> consumer products (eg whatever's on sale at Walmart). LEDs that are
>>>>>> made for commercial store displays have better CRI because they care
>>>>>> about colour rendition for stuff they are selling. I have some of
>>>>>> those by way of Amazon and they have surprisingly nice light.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See what B&H Photo or Adorama has available in your price range. The
>>>>>> 500 and 1000 LED panels are reasonably priced these days and put out a
>>>>>> lot of good light. Fotodiox is a more budget source with good strong
>>>>>> lights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many photo LED panels use DC power, so definitely no flicker. AC
>>>>>> powered ones? Dunno.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where I notice CRI making a huge difference is when I shoot with a
>>>>>> calibrated colour workflow -- ie using a colour-checker card, and
>>>>>> calibrating the monitor with a colorimeter. Then I can really see what
>>>>>> normal consumer room lights do to skin versus shooting with strobes
>>>>>> that have a very high CRI. I can even tell the difference between
>>>>>> shooting with Profoto pack and head strobes and the less expensive
>>>>>> Paul Buff lights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone here have advice about selecting LED lights for studio
>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried several consumer bands with mixed results. I understand
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> color rendering index  (CRI) rating is supposed indicate how well the
>>>>>>> bulb
>>>>>>> displays colors, but my experience so far has not shows any strong
>>>>>>> correlation between that actual results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I've tried 4 different brands of bulbs, with the best results
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> from Earthtronic bulbs with a mediocre CRI 81 and the worst coming
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> GE
>>>>>>> Reveal  with a respectable CRI 93. IMO, the Reveal bulb was the least
>>>>>>> accurate of all four brands that I tried in terms of color rendition
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> also banded noticeably (do LEDs flicker?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So - how do you tell what LED's will work the best - or it just trial
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> error?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
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